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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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      @eddiejennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      Bah. Deal for selling out old Altigen server is going to fall through, because I realized the Windows 7 license that was on the machine was a NFR license, and the buyer requires it to come with a Windows 7 license.

      That and WIndows 7 can't be licensed for PBX usage, so it would be a license violation no matter what.

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      • EddieJenningsE
        EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @eddiejennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        Bah. Deal for selling out old Altigen server is going to fall through, because I realized the Windows 7 license that was on the machine was a NFR license, and the buyer requires it to come with a Windows 7 license.

        That and WIndows 7 can't be licensed for PBX usage, so it would be a license violation no matter what.

        Never knew there was such a restriction. Learn something every day :(.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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          @eddiejennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @eddiejennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          Bah. Deal for selling out old Altigen server is going to fall through, because I realized the Windows 7 license that was on the machine was a NFR license, and the buyer requires it to come with a Windows 7 license.

          That and WIndows 7 can't be licensed for PBX usage, so it would be a license violation no matter what.

          Never knew there was such a restriction. Learn something every day :(.

          For all intents and purposes, Windows desktops can't be used as servers. Think about it, if they could, no one would buy servers. Desktop licenses would be a magic workaround to the licensing. There are very specific exceptions, but basically, if you want something to act as a server, you have to license a server.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            The one real exception is SMB. Windows desktops are allowed a very small number of peer ot peer SMB file sharing connections without requiring a server license and CALs. And you can use them as really crappy network routers. But that is basically it. Anything like running a server application on it, you can't do.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              This is the same problem that makes VirtualBox, Spiceworks or 3CX super expensive. To do anything useful with them, you need a Windows server license.

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                The one real exception is SMB. Windows desktops are allowed a very small number of peer ot peer SMB file sharing connections without requiring a server license and CALs. And you can use them as really crappy network routers. But that is basically it. Anything like running a server application on it, you can't do.

                Are you talking about "Workgroups"?

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                • EddieJenningsE
                  EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @eddiejennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @eddiejennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  Bah. Deal for selling out old Altigen server is going to fall through, because I realized the Windows 7 license that was on the machine was a NFR license, and the buyer requires it to come with a Windows 7 license.

                  That and WIndows 7 can't be licensed for PBX usage, so it would be a license violation no matter what.

                  Never knew there was such a restriction. Learn something every day :(.

                  For all intents and purposes, Windows desktops can't be used as servers. Think about it, if they could, no one would buy servers. Desktop licenses would be a magic workaround to the licensing. There are very specific exceptions, but basically, if you want something to act as a server, you have to license a server.

                  Yep. Makes perfect sense, and it was always suspicious about it. Another win deploying my FreePBX system.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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                    @eddiejennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @eddiejennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @eddiejennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    Bah. Deal for selling out old Altigen server is going to fall through, because I realized the Windows 7 license that was on the machine was a NFR license, and the buyer requires it to come with a Windows 7 license.

                    That and WIndows 7 can't be licensed for PBX usage, so it would be a license violation no matter what.

                    Never knew there was such a restriction. Learn something every day :(.

                    For all intents and purposes, Windows desktops can't be used as servers. Think about it, if they could, no one would buy servers. Desktop licenses would be a magic workaround to the licensing. There are very specific exceptions, but basically, if you want something to act as a server, you have to license a server.

                    Yep. Makes perfect sense, and it was always suspicious about it. Another win deploying my FreePBX system.

                    Yup, amazing how Windows has so many caveats to simple things. You really have to be constantly watching.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                      @tim_g said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      The one real exception is SMB. Windows desktops are allowed a very small number of peer ot peer SMB file sharing connections without requiring a server license and CALs. And you can use them as really crappy network routers. But that is basically it. Anything like running a server application on it, you can't do.

                      Are you talking about "Workgroups"?

                      Workgroups are a different thing and are allowed on their own, but do nothing, so don't really matter.

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                      • EddieJenningsE
                        EddieJennings
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                        Explaining to people that "no, I cannot sell a device that has a not-for-resale OS license on it."

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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                          @eddiejennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          Explaining to people that "no, I cannot sell a device that has a not-for-resale OS license on it."

                          How did an NFR license even get acquired?

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                          • EddieJenningsE
                            EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @eddiejennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            Explaining to people that "no, I cannot sell a device that has a not-for-resale OS license on it."

                            How did an NFR license even get acquired?

                            Before my time. Original Altigen server was sold with XP pro license, and was eventually upgraded to Windows 7 with that NFR license.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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                              @eddiejennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @eddiejennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              Explaining to people that "no, I cannot sell a device that has a not-for-resale OS license on it."

                              How did an NFR license even get acquired?

                              Before my time. Original Altigen server was sold with XP pro license, and was eventually upgraded to Windows 7 with that NFR license.

                              So basically, the product was never licensed at all and has been pirated since day one 😉

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                              • EddieJenningsE
                                EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @eddiejennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @eddiejennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                Explaining to people that "no, I cannot sell a device that has a not-for-resale OS license on it."

                                How did an NFR license even get acquired?

                                Before my time. Original Altigen server was sold with XP pro license, and was eventually upgraded to Windows 7 with that NFR license.

                                So basically, the product was never licensed at all and has been pirated since day one 😉

                                ... pass

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                                • dafyreD
                                  dafyre
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                                  Doing something... interesting. I just installed Solus to a 32GB flash drive. Will see how well it works.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                    @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    Doing something... interesting. I just installed Solus to a 32GB flash drive. Will see how well it works.

                                    Solus is pretty awesome.

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      Doing something... interesting. I just installed Solus to a 32GB flash drive. Will see how well it works.

                                      Solus is pretty awesome.

                                      It runs respectably so far. It has an odd freeze here and there, but that's because the flash drive is USB 2.0. It just installed drivers for the Wifi on my Mac without needing internet, lol. Let's see if they work.

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                                      • dafyreD
                                        dafyre
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                                        I tried Elementary, but the screen would start flickering and the install wouldn't complete.

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                                        • AdamFA
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                                          Closing out some tickets, playing with salt, getting some coffee.

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                                          • EddieJenningsE
                                            EddieJennings
                                            last edited by EddieJennings

                                            Cannot wait for this work day to come to an end.

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