What Are You Doing Right Now
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@dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller Good evening to everyone!
Good evening.
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@eddiejennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Maybe I'm just bitter from UGA's meltdown, but it seems like the vultures have landed on this thread.
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2085471-the-best-low-cost-cloud-based-phone-system
Guy hasn't had a chance to even tell us requirements, and [insert vendor here] already has the best possible solution for the requirements that haven't been named.Its funny because I was looking into SW marketing options and from what I can tell all you get is the opportunity to SPAM everyone with your wares.
The only thing worth a damn in terms of comments are other people who have used and recommend a product.
I have been looking at out of band options from the normal google/facebook/twitter ads, specifically paid Youtube content creators. Not paid fake referrals but those who have followers and would do a product run down, unbiased, etc.
On a past project I had a Verge/Vox article bring me a few thousand sign-ups. Then a week or so later some Youtube video was posted, had never heard of them, and we had about 10,000 sign ups overnight. The video only had 24,000 views.
Targeting seems to be everything now. But still I am sure vendors make a little bit from hussling like that, otherwise they wouldnt keep coming back.
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@bigbear said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Targeting seems to be everything now. But still I am sure vendors make a little bit from hussling like that, otherwise they wouldnt keep coming back.
That's not actually true. With a lot of marketing, departments are given budgets and have no means to track success. So in many cases, marketing attempts are done without feedback and can actually do negative impact to sales, but no one knows how it happened.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@bigbear said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Targeting seems to be everything now. But still I am sure vendors make a little bit from hussling like that, otherwise they wouldnt keep coming back.
That's not actually true. With a lot of marketing, departments are given budgets and have no means to track success. So in many cases, marketing attempts are done without feedback and can actually do negative impact to sales, but no one knows how it happened.
Yeah I read something (maybe here) about how the more ads someone sees the less likely they are to engage with a brand or product. Wish I had the link.
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@bigbear said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@bigbear said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Targeting seems to be everything now. But still I am sure vendors make a little bit from hussling like that, otherwise they wouldnt keep coming back.
That's not actually true. With a lot of marketing, departments are given budgets and have no means to track success. So in many cases, marketing attempts are done without feedback and can actually do negative impact to sales, but no one knows how it happened.
Yeah I read something (maybe here) about how the more ads someone sees the less likely they are to engage with a brand or product. Wish I had the link.
Speaking for myself as a consumer, commercials and such convince me who not to use for X product more often than they convince me who to use.
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@eddiejennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@bigbear said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@bigbear said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Targeting seems to be everything now. But still I am sure vendors make a little bit from hussling like that, otherwise they wouldnt keep coming back.
That's not actually true. With a lot of marketing, departments are given budgets and have no means to track success. So in many cases, marketing attempts are done without feedback and can actually do negative impact to sales, but no one knows how it happened.
Yeah I read something (maybe here) about how the more ads someone sees the less likely they are to engage with a brand or product. Wish I had the link.
Speaking for myself as a consumer, commercials and such convince me who not to use for X product more often than they convince me who to use.
Same for me. Especially when they are spam-ish in nature.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@eddiejennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@bigbear said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@bigbear said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Targeting seems to be everything now. But still I am sure vendors make a little bit from hussling like that, otherwise they wouldnt keep coming back.
That's not actually true. With a lot of marketing, departments are given budgets and have no means to track success. So in many cases, marketing attempts are done without feedback and can actually do negative impact to sales, but no one knows how it happened.
Yeah I read something (maybe here) about how the more ads someone sees the less likely they are to engage with a brand or product. Wish I had the link.
Speaking for myself as a consumer, commercials and such convince me who not to use for X product more often than they convince me who to use.
Same for me. Especially when they are spam-ish in nature.
What I read, or saw, was basically saying that any display ads at all are counter-intuitive to their purpose. I think it was actually the radio.
However, I am sure there is more to it than that.
Content marketing is big, and apparently effective. But if you dont have a break-away product that is new or different I cant see it being very effective.
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@bigbear said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Content marketing is big, and apparently effective. But if you dont have a break-away product that is new or different I cant see it being very effective.
The key is that it is apparently effective. As it is nearly impossible to measure internally, it's very hard to guess externally. I've been told by internal marketing managers that a lot of marketing people throw money specifically at campaign types that can't be measured so that metrics can't be produced to show that what they are doing isn't working.
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Good morning. Don’t even have my computer on today. Chilling on the couch with coffee and Skyrim: Dragonborn while the kids are still asleep.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Good morning. Don’t even have my computer on today. Chilling on the couch with coffee and Skyrim: Dragonborn while the kids are still asleep.
Well, be sure to Laas, Yah, Nir and not Fus, Ro, Dah, unless you want to wake everyone up.
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Reading about KVM in my RHCSA book before heading out to D&D.
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Trying to jump start my brain with a whole pot of coffee..
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Made pancakes for breakfast. Just got the youngest off to a birthday party. Taking the oldest off to Ikea as she wants meatballs for lunch.
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Looking at http://whatitbeandhowitdo.blogspot.com/search?m=1
From another time in my life when I was thinking of opening a gourmet doughnut shop -
Lunch at Ikea.
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Been just chilling with my daughter all day.
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FreePBX install. Saw that they have 15 out now, might check that out at some point. Home lab keeps rolling.
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@travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
FreePBX install. Saw that they have 15 out now, might check that out at some point. Home lab keeps rolling.
Isn't. It supposed to be like a new release every 6 or 12 months now?
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@travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
FreePBX install. Saw that they have 15 out now, might check that out at some point. Home lab keeps rolling.
FreePBX 15 is not out yet. There is not even a public beta out yet.
Do you mean Asterisk 15?
That said, FreePBX 15 was supposed to get so kind of alpha or beta in October, but i have not heard about it actually happening.
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@jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
FreePBX install. Saw that they have 15 out now, might check that out at some point. Home lab keeps rolling.
FreePBX 15 is not out yet. There is not even a public beta out yet.
Do you mean Asterisk 15?
That said, FreePBX 15 was supposed to get so kind of alpha or beta in October, but i have not heard about it actually happening.
They've not announced anything yet.
