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    Water Closet
    wtf i cant even that is not how that works
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    • R3dPand4R
      R3dPand4 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

      @dashrender said in I can't even:

      @rojoloco said in I can't even:

      @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

      17 years in IT? https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2083921-help-errror-e1810-hdd-1-hdd2-hdd3-fault-on-poweredge-2900-production-server?page=1#entry-7357313

      She even says in the post - "I have no idea what I'm doing". Not something to post publicly if you claim to have 17 years in IT.

      This goes to another recent thread about the home lab vs 'work experience' just because you "worked" in IT for 17 years doesn't mean you know shit about it.

      Great catch. One day in a home lab might easly have provided more useful knowledge and experience than seventeen years working in a company doing this stuff.

      Also goes to show that just having a cert doesn't mean anything, it's what you learned along the way. CISSP, and an MCSE? Come on....

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @R3dPand4
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        @r3dpand4 said in I can't even:

        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

        Just confirmed that she has backups. Sadly, they are Backup Exec.

        See you in 94 hours when that restore completes with degraded data.

        I think that they are talking about a month before even knowing what is happening.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @R3dPand4
          last edited by

          @r3dpand4 said in I can't even:

          @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

          @dashrender said in I can't even:

          @rojoloco said in I can't even:

          @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

          17 years in IT? https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2083921-help-errror-e1810-hdd-1-hdd2-hdd3-fault-on-poweredge-2900-production-server?page=1#entry-7357313

          She even says in the post - "I have no idea what I'm doing". Not something to post publicly if you claim to have 17 years in IT.

          This goes to another recent thread about the home lab vs 'work experience' just because you "worked" in IT for 17 years doesn't mean you know shit about it.

          Great catch. One day in a home lab might easly have provided more useful knowledge and experience than seventeen years working in a company doing this stuff.

          Also goes to show that just having a cert doesn't mean anything, it's what you learned along the way. CISSP, and an MCSE? Come on....

          She has a CISSP?

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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            @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

            I can't even. . .

            "Despite the name "Unencrypted PAP", the client's password is sent encrypted over an IPsec tunnel between the client device and the MX. The password is fully secure and never sent in clear text over either the WAN or the LAN."

            Um... how come you'd have someone manually change the settings to something obviously broken?

            Because it is not broken. It is simply unencrypted. But, it is being sent over an already encrypted channel. So the authentication is never in the clear.

            This is precisely how you have to setup L2TP in Windows talking to an Ubiquiti router also.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
              last edited by

              @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

              @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

              I can't even. . .

              "Despite the name "Unencrypted PAP", the client's password is sent encrypted over an IPsec tunnel between the client device and the MX. The password is fully secure and never sent in clear text over either the WAN or the LAN."

              Um... how come you'd have someone manually change the settings to something obviously broken?

              Because it is not broken. It is simply unencrypted. But, it is being sent over an already encrypted channel. So the authentication is never in the clear.

              This is precisely how you have to setup L2TP in Windows talking to an Ubiquiti router also.

              So is it adding something to the connection?

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

                @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

                @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

                I can't even. . .

                "Despite the name "Unencrypted PAP", the client's password is sent encrypted over an IPsec tunnel between the client device and the MX. The password is fully secure and never sent in clear text over either the WAN or the LAN."

                Um... how come you'd have someone manually change the settings to something obviously broken?

                Because it is not broken. It is simply unencrypted. But, it is being sent over an already encrypted channel. So the authentication is never in the clear.

                This is precisely how you have to setup L2TP in Windows talking to an Ubiquiti router also.

                So is it adding something to the connection?

                It is the USER authentication being sent.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
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                  @DustinB3403 here is my home ERL.

                  The part that is going over with Unencrypted PAP is testuser/Testing!123.
                  But it is going over the Existing IPSEC tunnel that was set up with the PSK.

                  jbusch@jared:~$ show configuration commands vpn | grep l2tp
                  set vpn l2tp remote-access authentication local-users username testuser password 'Testing!123'
                  set vpn l2tp remote-access authentication mode local
                  set vpn l2tp remote-access client-ip-pool start 10.254.203.2
                  set vpn l2tp remote-access client-ip-pool stop 10.254.203.10
                  set vpn l2tp remote-access dhcp-interface eth0
                  set vpn l2tp remote-access dns-servers server-1 8.8.8.8
                  set vpn l2tp remote-access dns-servers server-2 8.8.4.4
                  set vpn l2tp remote-access ipsec-settings authentication mode pre-shared-secret
                  set vpn l2tp remote-access ipsec-settings authentication pre-shared-secret NOTGONNATELLYOU
                  set vpn l2tp remote-access ipsec-settings ike-lifetime 3600
                  set vpn l2tp remote-access mtu 1492
                  
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                  • NerdyDadN
                    NerdyDad
                    last edited by

                    This just arrived in my email

                    0_1510168435072_Windows 2000.PNG

                    Who still uses Windows 2000?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
                      last edited by

                      @nerdydad said in I can't even:

                      This just arrived in my email

                      0_1510168435072_Windows 2000.PNG

                      Who still uses Windows 2000?

                      Believe it or not, someone on this thread from yesterday 😉

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                      • EddieJenningsE
                        EddieJennings
                        last edited by

                        Today's gem:

                        User: Paper shredder in [another user]'s office has died after 10 years. I can find the identical one [from a vendor] but [it's used, and I'm not comfortable buying used]. Any thoughts on where to find the same one?

                        Me: The odds of you finding an identical replacement for a 10 year old device are slim to none. Better approach would be determine desired features, set a price point, and go shopping.

                        User: Let me see what I can come up with. 🙂

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                        • RojoLocoR
                          RojoLoco @EddieJennings
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                          @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                          Today's gem:

                          User: Paper shredder in [another user]'s office has died after 10 years. I can find the identical one [from a vendor] but [it's used, and I'm not comfortable buying used]. Any thoughts on where to find the same one?

                          Me: The odds of you finding an identical replacement for a 10 year old device are slim to none. Better approach would be determine desired features, set a price point, and go shopping.

                          User: Let me see what I can come up with. 🙂

                          User: Desired features = at least 10 years old, looks and works just like the old one.

                          You : ..............

                          User : what are "specifications"???

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                          • EddieJenningsE
                            EddieJennings
                            last edited by

                            Umm.
                            0_1510176679766_5fa6670a-c1f4-4260-bdfd-dfbe4d43560e-image.png

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              WTF is wrong with people?

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                              • EddieJenningsE
                                EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                WTF is wrong with people?

                                I keep getting answers to questions I ask in Slack while I type stuff in Spiceworks, causing me to be beind you :P.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
                                  last edited by

                                  @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                  WTF is wrong with people?

                                  I keep getting answers to questions I ask in Slack while I type stuff in Spiceworks, causing me to be beind you :P.

                                  Slacker

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    I love how often threads are so insanely straightforward, and then the person answers something that doesn't match anything anywhere on the thread. It's like they can't read or are having a stroke or something.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      Network drive loaded onto a Cisco router. Um... https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2084210-need-help-with-network-storage-encryption

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        This guy doesn't seem to know what a NAS is, a router, BitLocker or encryption.

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                                        • Reid CooperR
                                          Reid Cooper @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                          Network drive loaded onto a Cisco router. Um... https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2084210-need-help-with-network-storage-encryption

                                          So he encrypted a drive and is surprised that it is encrypted?

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                                            last edited by

                                            @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

                                            @DustinB3403 here is my home ERL.

                                            The part that is going over with Unencrypted PAP is testuser/Testing!123.
                                            But it is going over the Existing IPSEC tunnel that was set up with the PSK.

                                            jbusch@jared:~$ show configuration commands vpn | grep l2tp
                                            set vpn l2tp remote-access authentication local-users username testuser password 'Testing!123'
                                            set vpn l2tp remote-access authentication mode local
                                            set vpn l2tp remote-access client-ip-pool start 10.254.203.2
                                            set vpn l2tp remote-access client-ip-pool stop 10.254.203.10
                                            set vpn l2tp remote-access dhcp-interface eth0
                                            set vpn l2tp remote-access dns-servers server-1 8.8.8.8
                                            set vpn l2tp remote-access dns-servers server-2 8.8.4.4
                                            set vpn l2tp remote-access ipsec-settings authentication mode pre-shared-secret
                                            set vpn l2tp remote-access ipsec-settings authentication pre-shared-secret NOTGONNATELLYOU
                                            set vpn l2tp remote-access ipsec-settings ike-lifetime 3600
                                            set vpn l2tp remote-access mtu 1492
                                            

                                            So without the "Require encryption" the preshared key is sent in plain text?

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