Microsoft Removes Storage Spaces Direct from Windows Server 2016
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In the latest release, version 1709, Microsoft has announced that Storage Spaces Direct will no longer be a part of Windows Server 2016. A pretty significant blow to the Windows ecosystem and to Windows administrators who pretty broadly were depending on this technology.
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Pretty big boon to vendors like Starwind, though.
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You can still deploy systems with S2D by using RS1, and is still supported as in LTS.
It looks like they will be adding S2D back in, though. Just not yet (until it's production ready?).
You can't upgrade anyways, so if you don't already use S2D, it doesn't effect you. If you want to use S2D, you can still deploy systems with S2D by using Server 2016 LTS (RS1), and is still supported.
It looks like they are moving S2D to a different product/SKU from what the comments say... It's hard to know what they are up to without being in their circle like @KOOLER is.
You have any info you're allowed to share regarding this to clear things up?
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You will have to buy Windows Super Server Edition 2016 to get this functionality. At twice the price.
Seriously, that blurb says that MS is 'thrilled' about adoption of Storage Spaces Direct"Storage Spaces Direct was introduced in Windows Server 2016 and is the foundation for our hyper-converged platform. We have been thrilled by the positive adoption of the Microsoft hyper-converged platform and we are committed to our customers."
so why take it away?
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@tim_g said in Microsoft Removes Storage Spaces Direct from Windows Server 2016:
It's hard to know what they are up to without being in their circle like @KOOLER is.
He said that even the inner circle has been told nothing.
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Probably will only be available for those using the Windows Server 2016 Datacenter.
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@black3dynamite said in Microsoft Removes Storage Spaces Direct from Windows Server 2016:
Probably will only be available for those using the Windows Server 2016 Datacenter.
No, it was already like that. That's where it got removed from.
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@tim_g said in Microsoft Removes Storage Spaces Direct from Windows Server 2016:
You can still deploy systems with S2D by using RS1, and is still supported as in LTS.
holy shit, please can you enlight me on how MS numbers/support win versions?! I'm going mad. I've hyper-v server 2016 since march, always installed only security patches: which f***ing version should I expect?!
Also have some win server 2016 licenses... how to"stick" on RS1 install and what RS1 is?
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BTW: S2D also included the LVM? or this is "just" storage space and is still available.
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@matteo-nunziati said in Microsoft Removes Storage Spaces Direct from Windows Server 2016:
@tim_g said in Microsoft Removes Storage Spaces Direct from Windows Server 2016:
You can still deploy systems with S2D by using RS1, and is still supported as in LTS.
holy shit, please can you enlight me on how MS numbers/support win versions?! I'm going mad. I've hyper-v server 2016 since march, always installed only security patches: which f***ing version should I expect?!
I agree, no one can track Windows any more. Everything that we've complained about with Linux versions being complex, Microsoft has doubled how bad it is. No Linux distro comes close to the mess that Windows is becoming. There are like three or four versions of desktop now alone!
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@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Removes Storage Spaces Direct from Windows Server 2016:
@matteo-nunziati said in Microsoft Removes Storage Spaces Direct from Windows Server 2016:
@tim_g said in Microsoft Removes Storage Spaces Direct from Windows Server 2016:
You can still deploy systems with S2D by using RS1, and is still supported as in LTS.
holy shit, please can you enlight me on how MS numbers/support win versions?! I'm going mad. I've hyper-v server 2016 since march, always installed only security patches: which f***ing version should I expect?!
I agree, no one can track Windows any more. Everything that we've complained about with Linux versions being complex, Microsoft has doubled how bad it is. No Linux distro comes close to the mess that Windows is becoming. There are like three or four versions of desktop now alone!
Lol, no doubt!
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@tim_g said in Microsoft Removes Storage Spaces Direct from Windows Server 2016:
You can still deploy systems with S2D by using RS1, and is still supported as in LTS.
It looks like they will be adding S2D back in, though. Just not yet (until it's production ready?).
You can't upgrade anyways, so if you don't already use S2D, it doesn't effect you. If you want to use S2D, you can still deploy systems with S2D by using Server 2016 LTS (RS1), and is still supported.
> It looks like they are moving S2D to a different product/SKU from what the comments say... It's hard to know what they are up to without being in their circle like @KOOLER is.
You have any info you're allowed to share regarding this to clear things up?
Unfortunately I won't be a valuable source of information here - I don't know about their plans
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@momurda said in Microsoft Removes Storage Spaces Direct from Windows Server 2016:
You will have to buy Windows Super Server Edition 2016 to get this functionality. At twice the price.
Seriously, that blurb says that MS is 'thrilled' about adoption of Storage Spaces Direct"Storage Spaces Direct was introduced in Windows Server 2016 and is the foundation for our hyper-converged platform. We have been thrilled by the positive adoption of the Microsoft hyper-converged platform and we are committed to our customers."
so why take it away?
Don't listen to anything people say, watch what they DO.
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It's coming back in RS4. Here's a lot more info about it. No need to panic.
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The implementation of an Azure Stack would be something to get our heads around for the time being.
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@darek-hamann said in Microsoft Removes Storage Spaces Direct from Windows Server 2016:
The implementation of an Azure Stack would be something to get our heads around for the time being.
Hopefully it is better than the actual Azure system!
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@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Removes Storage Spaces Direct from Windows Server 2016:
@darek-hamann said in Microsoft Removes Storage Spaces Direct from Windows Server 2016:
The implementation of an Azure Stack would be something to get our heads around for the time being.
Hopefully it is better than the actual Azure system!
It is Azure, same thing, but you have a physical node on-prem. You pay for the hardware, and you get Azure a little cheaper, but it's fully managed by them.
It's really only for remote places with bad bandwidth imho.
Think like, needing cloud from an 18-wheeler in a remote location.
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@tim_g said in Microsoft Removes Storage Spaces Direct from Windows Server 2016:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Removes Storage Spaces Direct from Windows Server 2016:
@darek-hamann said in Microsoft Removes Storage Spaces Direct from Windows Server 2016:
The implementation of an Azure Stack would be something to get our heads around for the time being.
Hopefully it is better than the actual Azure system!
It is Azure, same thing, but you have a physical node on-prem. You pay for the hardware, and you get Azure a little cheaper, but it's fully managed by them.
It's really only for remote places with bad bandwidth imho.
Think like, needing cloud from an 18-wheeler in a remote location.
This sounds like a crappy version of the AWS Snowball
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@r3dpand4 said in Microsoft Removes Storage Spaces Direct from Windows Server 2016:
@tim_g said in Microsoft Removes Storage Spaces Direct from Windows Server 2016:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Removes Storage Spaces Direct from Windows Server 2016:
@darek-hamann said in Microsoft Removes Storage Spaces Direct from Windows Server 2016:
The implementation of an Azure Stack would be something to get our heads around for the time being.
Hopefully it is better than the actual Azure system!
It is Azure, same thing, but you have a physical node on-prem. You pay for the hardware, and you get Azure a little cheaper, but it's fully managed by them.
It's really only for remote places with bad bandwidth imho.
Think like, needing cloud from an 18-wheeler in a remote location.
This sounds like a crappy version of the AWS Snowball
Completely different.
This is like making your portion of the AWS cloud in-house, including the entire AWS stack.
Again, not too useful unless you are trying to bring the cloud to a remote location to avoid excessive latency or to somewhere the internet doesn't exist... like linking it to a satellite connection during a disaster or something.
There are other real uses, but that would be for bigger enterprises... for most SMBs, Azure Stack would never be a consideration.
