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    • JoelJ
      Joel
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      I've just deleted everything so my E:\ directory so it's now empty...Willing to start right from the top...

      Step1 - Create a folder called SHARED (E:\Shared) and then under properties > Share > Advanced sharing, will call it 'Shared' and give Everyone Full control.

      Step2 - I'll then go to security tab > advanced and disable inheritance (converting to explicit objects) and then remove the local users accounts

      Step3 - Whilst in advanced security, I'll add in a new principle (Domain Users) to 'this folder only' and apply advanced permissions (list folder/read data)

      So far so good? Whats next as i think i go wrong from here!

      Step 4 - Create the sub folders under E:\Shared
      ie. E:\Shared\Folder1
      E:\Shared\Folder2
      E:\Shared\Folder3

      Note: I've created my security groups and put the relevant users in them already so they are on standby.

      What permissions can/should I apply to each sub folder?

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
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        Let's assume you create a group called Folder1 and you want them to have full control.

        You need to set the Security settings to Full Control to Folder 1 group and nothing else should be listed.

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        • JoelJ
          Joel
          last edited by

          Thats precisely what i've done but yet I can still see Folder 2 (although dont have permissions to open it) it's still visible though!

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @Joel
            last edited by

            @joel said in Hiding files/folder shares from users:

            Thats precisely what i've done but yet I can still see Folder 2 (although dont have permissions to open it) it's still visible though!

            I'd say that ABE isn't working or enabled then.

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            • black3dynamiteB
              black3dynamite @Joel
              last edited by

              @joel said in Hiding files/folder shares from users:

              Thats precisely what i've done but yet I can still see Folder 2 (although dont have permissions to open it) it's still visible though!

              Are you viewing the share from your account or different account?

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by

                I just checked this on my own server (I didn't have ABE enabled, I clicked box and poof, one folder on my share I don't have any permissions for vanished).

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @Joel
                  last edited by

                  @joel said in Hiding files/folder shares from users:

                  Thats precisely what i've done but yet I can still see Folder 2 (although dont have permissions to open it) it's still visible though!

                  OHH and you need to be looking through the share connection, not through the folder structure on the server itself (made that mistake before too).

                  The folder structure will also ways show you (well, almost always).

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                  • JoelJ
                    Joel @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @dashrender said in Hiding files/folder shares from users:

                    @joel said in Hiding files/folder shares from users:

                    Thats precisely what i've done but yet I can still see Folder 2 (although dont have permissions to open it) it's still visible though!

                    OHH and you need to be looking through the share connection, not through the folder structure on the server itself (made that mistake before too).

                    The folder structure will also ways show you (well, almost always).

                    THATS WHERE THE PROBLEM IS!!! if ii browse to \SERVER\Shared I can only see the folder I want!

                    However, i'm actually using a remote app (excel) and when I go to File>Open>E:\Shared, I can see the folder!

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                    • black3dynamiteB
                      black3dynamite @Joel
                      last edited by

                      @joel said in Hiding files/folder shares from users:

                      @dashrender said in Hiding files/folder shares from users:

                      @joel said in Hiding files/folder shares from users:

                      Thats precisely what i've done but yet I can still see Folder 2 (although dont have permissions to open it) it's still visible though!

                      OHH and you need to be looking through the share connection, not through the folder structure on the server itself (made that mistake before too).

                      The folder structure will also ways show you (well, almost always).

                      THATS WHERE THE PROBLEM IS!!! if ii browse to \SERVER\Shared I can only see the folder I want!

                      However, i'm actually using a remote app (excel) and when I go to File>Open>E:\Shared, I can see the folder!

                      Have you tried reopening excel and then go to E:\Shared to see if the folder is not there?

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                      • JoelJ
                        Joel
                        last edited by

                        Yes, it is 100% visible. I've even logged onto the server via RDP and can see the folder there. However, it ISNT there when I browse to \Server\Shared. Of course I dont want to see the folder in any case as I dont have permission to it! I only want to see the folders I do have access to!

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @Joel
                          last edited by

                          @joel said in Hiding files/folder shares from users:

                          Yes, it is 100% visible. I've even logged onto the server via RDP and can see the folder there. However, it ISNT there when I browse to \Server\Shared. Of course I dont want to see the folder in any case as I dont have permission to it! I only want to see the folders I do have access to!

                          Try rebooting - not that I needed to. I just checked on my missing folder (research folder in my case) and it's still not listed when I browser through Excel.

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                          • black3dynamiteB
                            black3dynamite @Joel
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                            @joel said in Hiding files/folder shares from users:

                            Yes, it is 100% visible. I've even logged onto the server via RDP and can see the folder there. However, it ISNT there when I browse to \Server\Shared. Of course I dont want to see the folder in any case as I dont have permission to it! I only want to see the folders I do have access to!

                            I'm not sure it possible to hide folders if you have access to it locally.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              Where are you launching Excel from? Inside the RDP session? if yes, it will suffer the same issue as local browsing, unless you specifically tell Excel to look at \\server\share\ etc.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @black3dynamite
                                last edited by

                                @black3dynamite said in Hiding files/folder shares from users:

                                @joel said in Hiding files/folder shares from users:

                                Yes, it is 100% visible. I've even logged onto the server via RDP and can see the folder there. However, it ISNT there when I browse to \Server\Shared. Of course I dont want to see the folder in any case as I dont have permission to it! I only want to see the folders I do have access to!

                                I'm not sure it possible to hide folders if you have access to it locally.

                                Sure you can, as long as you look for those folders through the filter - in this case, through the SMB share.

                                I'm guessing he's having the same problem he was having before - Excel is going to to the local drive, not the mapped network share.

                                What makes this more complicated is if the data is on the same machine he's actually on. i.e. local drive E:\share is mapped to network drive s:\

                                You'll need Excel to look through S:\ not E:\ to see the filtering

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
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                                  Access based enumeration is a function of the SMB share. If that's not in the loop, it can't work.

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                                  • JoelJ
                                    Joel
                                    last edited by

                                    The E:\ isnt on my local laptop. It's on a hosted server along with Excel which is setup as a remote app.

                                    We have a VPN to the server so from my local laptop, I can use SMB path \Server\shared\ and am able to see the folder I need (Folder1)

                                    However if I launch Excel (remote app) its looking locally on the server so if I browse to E:\Shared - I am able to see Folder1 and Folder2 (although permission denied to Folder2) but I DONT want to see it there in the 1st place!

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @Joel
                                      last edited by

                                      @joel said in Hiding files/folder shares from users:

                                      The E:\ isnt on my local laptop. It's on a hosted server along with Excel which is setup as a remote app.

                                      We have a VPN to the server so from my local laptop, I can use SMB path \Server\shared\ and am able to see the folder I need (Folder1)

                                      However if I launch Excel (remote app) its looking locally on the server so if I browse to E:\Shared - I am able to see Folder1 and Folder2 (although permission denied to Folder2) but I DONT want to see it there in the 1st place!

                                      This is exactly as I said.

                                      But first let me confirm something - Is Excel on the same machine as the files are saved on?

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                                      • JoelJ
                                        Joel @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @dashrender said in Hiding files/folder shares from users:

                                        @joel said in Hiding files/folder shares from users:

                                        The E:\ isnt on my local laptop. It's on a hosted server along with Excel which is setup as a remote app.

                                        We have a VPN to the server so from my local laptop, I can use SMB path \Server\shared\ and am able to see the folder I need (Folder1)

                                        However if I launch Excel (remote app) its looking locally on the server so if I browse to E:\Shared - I am able to see Folder1 and Folder2 (although permission denied to Folder2) but I DONT want to see it there in the 1st place!

                                        This is exactly as I said.

                                        But first let me confirm something - Is Excel on the same machine as the files are saved on?

                                        yes they are

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @Joel
                                          last edited by

                                          @joel said in Hiding files/folder shares from users:

                                          @dashrender said in Hiding files/folder shares from users:

                                          @joel said in Hiding files/folder shares from users:

                                          The E:\ isnt on my local laptop. It's on a hosted server along with Excel which is setup as a remote app.

                                          We have a VPN to the server so from my local laptop, I can use SMB path \Server\shared\ and am able to see the folder I need (Folder1)

                                          However if I launch Excel (remote app) its looking locally on the server so if I browse to E:\Shared - I am able to see Folder1 and Folder2 (although permission denied to Folder2) but I DONT want to see it there in the 1st place!

                                          This is exactly as I said.

                                          But first let me confirm something - Is Excel on the same machine as the files are saved on?

                                          yes they are

                                          And E: on that server is the local drive with the files?

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                                          • JoelJ
                                            Joel @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @dashrender said in Hiding files/folder shares from users:

                                            @joel said in Hiding files/folder shares from users:

                                            @dashrender said in Hiding files/folder shares from users:

                                            @joel said in Hiding files/folder shares from users:

                                            The E:\ isnt on my local laptop. It's on a hosted server along with Excel which is setup as a remote app.

                                            We have a VPN to the server so from my local laptop, I can use SMB path \Server\shared\ and am able to see the folder I need (Folder1)

                                            However if I launch Excel (remote app) its looking locally on the server so if I browse to E:\Shared - I am able to see Folder1 and Folder2 (although permission denied to Folder2) but I DONT want to see it there in the 1st place!

                                            This is exactly as I said.

                                            But first let me confirm something - Is Excel on the same machine as the files are saved on?

                                            yes they are

                                            And E: on that server is the local drive with the files?

                                            yes it is

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