Non-IT News Thread
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
Didn't Arkansas legalize concealed carry just this week?
Arkansas nightclub shooting leaves 28 wounded
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40467522The two things have nothing to do with each other. That is a strawman.
This was gang warfare. Legal conceal and carry has nothing to do with it.
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@JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
Didn't Arkansas legalize concealed carry just this week?
Arkansas nightclub shooting leaves 28 wounded
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40467522The two things have nothing to do with each other. That is a strawman.
This was gang warfare. Legal conceal and carry has nothing to do with it.
News said gangs were possible but not determined.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
Didn't Arkansas legalize concealed carry just this week?
Arkansas nightclub shooting leaves 28 wounded
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40467522The two things have nothing to do with each other. That is a strawman.
This was gang warfare. Legal conceal and carry has nothing to do with it.
News said gangs were possible but not determined.
Even then, your strawman is still a strawman.
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@JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
Didn't Arkansas legalize concealed carry just this week?
Arkansas nightclub shooting leaves 28 wounded
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40467522The two things have nothing to do with each other. That is a strawman.
This was gang warfare. Legal conceal and carry has nothing to do with it.
News said gangs were possible but not determined.
Even then, your strawman is still a strawman.
Lessso that assuming it WAS gang warfare. I heard two back to back news reports about Arkansas... that guns were allowed more than before and that a the next day a shooting happened where the cause was the density of guns brought to a club in the city. All I did was mention that one was just before the other, I didn't say that one caused the other. But it's interesting that it was back to back, nearly instant. The only cause given for the shooting was the prevalence of weapons at the bar - which given that the density of guns available was just raised, is a logical assumption for anyone to make as a contributing cause. But not one that I stated.
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I'm not sure how the term strawman works here, as a strawman requires refuting an argument, which I was not doing, not making one. A strawman is "A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while refuting an argument that was not advanced by that opponent." and then... "The typical straw man argument creates the illusion of having completely refuted or defeated an opponent's proposition through the covert replacement of it with a different proposition (i.e., "stand up a straw man") and the subsequent refutation of that false argument ("knock down a straw man") instead of the opponent's proposition."
Technically, I made no argument at all. You provided the first argument to my mention of an important coincidence and claimed that the fact (that so far hasn't been said by the news that I've seen) that is was a gang thing and could not be related to the increase in gun density, would actually be the strawman in this case. As I did not make a case and certainly did not form an argument against an opponent, I was not in the position to have a strawman.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
You'll notice that I never said that one thing led to another, I asked if they had (because that's the last thing I was told about Arkansas before this happened) and the news story included the details that gun density was believed to be the cause. I didn't not say that it WAS the cause, at most I implied that it might have contributed is the most you can reasonably draw, and it was only a question.
Attacking that position by claiming I made the correlation and that I implied it was certain and attacking that ... is the actual strawman. Calling my position the strawman misdirects from the fact that stating that it certainly was a gang attack was the actual strawman.
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Canada 150: Huge crowds celebrate nation's anniversary
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http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-electricity-solar/
Really interesting bit on what is going on with excess green renewable power in California.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-electricity-solar/
Really interesting bit on what is going on with excess green renewable power in California.
Already hearing about this? This is good, wish more people would know at least the basics on how the power grid functions.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-electricity-solar/
Really interesting bit on what is going on with excess green renewable power in California.
I was reading the piece you posted the other day - interesting problem.. and corruption in the government is preventing them from saving money.
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@Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-electricity-solar/
Really interesting bit on what is going on with excess green renewable power in California.
I was reading the piece you posted the other day - interesting problem.. and corruption in the government is preventing them from saving money.
I just glanced at the article, did they even mention anything about how the grid works?
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@travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-electricity-solar/
Really interesting bit on what is going on with excess green renewable power in California.
I was reading the piece you posted the other day - interesting problem.. and corruption in the government is preventing them from saving money.
I just glanced at the article, did they even mention anything about how the grid works?
Only that shutdown the the natural gas plants costs more money to bring back online versus the solar, so in the long wrong it's better to shut off the solar.
But it did say they are still building more natural gas and other non solar/wing plants.
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@Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
@travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-electricity-solar/
Really interesting bit on what is going on with excess green renewable power in California.
I was reading the piece you posted the other day - interesting problem.. and corruption in the government is preventing them from saving money.
I just glanced at the article, did they even mention anything about how the grid works?
Only that shutdown the the natural gas plants costs more money to bring back online versus the solar, so in the long wrong it's better to shut off the solar.
But it did say they are still building more natural gas and other non solar/wing plants.
While I highly expect corruption is there somewhere, nothing in that article leads one to say corruption.
Slow changing government? Bad price structures that have not updated? Sure.
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Cuba love hotels to make comeback, state announces
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
Odd...
http://www.businessinsider.com/cisco-happy-ftc-will-limit-broadcom-with-brocade-2017-7
Only way Cisco stays in business, IMHO. Like Hershey's, they had to get the law to block sale of Cadbury's because no one would buy Hershey's if there was another option realistically.
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That whole weird car straddling bus was a scam...
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2017/07/china-elevated-bus-scam/
