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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

      Also what I believe many people here are overlooking is that there can be a few investors who own the majority share of a company like Google, and decide to do things illegally because they have the most say.

      An investor with less than .01% stock in a company, has a say, and its shut up and let us run the way we want, or sell your stock.

      I've definitely not forgotten that and assume it in every post and feel that it is 100% in line with all of my logic. Their punishment is tied to the size of their involvement.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @momurda
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        @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @scottalanmiller Fraud is inherently bad. Causes harm to others by itself. Using a monopoly position to stifle others is inherently bad. Causes harm to others by itself. Me driving fast does not cause harm by itself. If i lose control while speeding, hit a vile bicyclist, then i am causing harm.

        That's not actually true. What if the fraud also helps the final customers? There isn't necessarily an innocent, injured party. And is it fraud to promote yourself? And often monopolies are chosen for efficiency. It's more like speeding than you think. But it didn't risk human life.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @momurda
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          @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

          No there isnt. What harm? What hazard?

          So you think speeding laws are an attack on citizens and don't exist to make the roads safer? What if we feel that way about anti-trust?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @momurda
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            @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @DustinB3403 There is no harm if i get to my destination without crashing or hitting anybody.

            This is based on the assumption that risk is not harm.

            Also, we can say there was no harm since people still bought stuff from Google.

            So... no need for a fine.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @momurda
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              @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

              Perhaps 100% is arbitrary. 1% is a joke that accomplishes nothing.

              How are you determining that? 1% is pretty significant in business, very, very significant. And this was 12% of profits. That's FREAKING ENORMOUS.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                Keep in mind, this is a local violation. What if this happened in Kenya or only in Montenegro. Would you want the same 100% fine for such a tiny infraction? Why would the EU fine 100% of revenues for something so local and trivial? What doing so be license to do anything else? Wouldn't that just teach companies to be MORE risky and do this MORE often, because if any little thing might hit you for the max, you need to go high or go home. Make the fine too big, and getting fined stops being a threat.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Also, this is a record fine. This is the exact opposite of significant. It actually sounds unbelievably over the top as it is. Think about all of Google's revenue, did they deserve to lose so much for something so small that likely affected no one?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    Global ransomware attack causes turmoil
                    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40416611

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      Coins thrown into plane engine by elderly passenger for 'luck'
                      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-40421811

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                      • hobbit666H
                        hobbit666 @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        Global ransomware attack causes turmoil
                        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40416611

                        Not sure about everyone else but this part of the article made my bum twitch a little on reading:-
                        "Chernobyl nuclear power plant has also had to monitor radiation levels manually after its Windows-based sensors were shut down."

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          'Vaccine' created for huge cyber-attack
                          http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40427907

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                            nadnerB @scottalanmiller
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                            • NerdyDadN
                              NerdyDad
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                              Exploding Fidget Spinners

                              https://www-cnet-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/fidget-spinners-exploding-of-course-they-are/

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                              • dafyreD
                                dafyre @NerdyDad
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                                @NerdyDad said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                Exploding Fidget Spinners

                                https://www-cnet-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/fidget-spinners-exploding-of-course-they-are/

                                Well.. We know what happened to the batteries that Samsung couldn't use.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @dafyre
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                                  @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @NerdyDad said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  Exploding Fidget Spinners

                                  https://www-cnet-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/fidget-spinners-exploding-of-course-they-are/

                                  Well.. We know what happened to the batteries that Samsung couldn't use.

                                  I stopped paying attention to the Samsung fiasco, what did they do with the batteries?

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre @DustinB3403
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                                    @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @NerdyDad said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    Exploding Fidget Spinners

                                    https://www-cnet-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/fidget-spinners-exploding-of-course-they-are/

                                    Well.. We know what happened to the batteries that Samsung couldn't use.

                                    I stopped paying attention to the Samsung fiasco, what did they do with the batteries?

                                    Apparently put them into exploding fidget spinners, ha ha. (Being sarcastic here, but it sure seems legit!).

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @dafyre
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                                      @dafyre Ohhh ha... sorry not in a normal state of mind atm. . .

                                      Neck is really stiff.

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                                      • dafyreD
                                        dafyre @DustinB3403
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                                        @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @dafyre Ohhh ha... sorry not in a normal state of mind atm. . .

                                        Neck is really stiff.

                                        That's no fun. Go find something and hang upside down for a bit. (We have an inversion table, it does wonders for the neck and back!)

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                          @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @dafyre Ohhh ha... sorry not in a normal state of mind atm. . .

                                          Neck is really stiff.

                                          That's no fun. Go find something and hang upside down for a bit. (We have an inversion table, it does wonders for the neck and back!)

                                          i really wish that we had one of those, I'm convinced that I would love it.

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @dafyre Ohhh ha... sorry not in a normal state of mind atm. . .

                                            Neck is really stiff.

                                            That's no fun. Go find something and hang upside down for a bit. (We have an inversion table, it does wonders for the neck and back!)

                                            i really wish that we had one of those, I'm convinced that I would love it.

                                            They're not terribly expensive Get them used for $50 and up... New are around $150 or so (ours was a gift, lol)

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