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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said in MS 2012 or 2016 to learn and certify ?:

      @Dashrender said in MS 2012 or 2016 to learn and certify ?:

      You never start with something old.

      College programs would argue otherwise. . . .

      That's because they are slow dinosaurs who can't ever keep up.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said in MS 2012 or 2016 to learn and certify ?:

        @Dashrender said in MS 2012 or 2016 to learn and certify ?:

        You never start with something old.

        College programs would argue otherwise. . . .

        Proving the point 😉

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in MS 2012 or 2016 to learn and certify ?:

          Unlike a job where you might 1% of the time have a reason to consider deploying an old version of software (like you already own it) education is not like that. You always educate forward, never backwards. Certifying on old tech has zero potential value compared to certifying on the latest.

          If a job needs you to learn something old, but you already know the new way - the company can train you on the old.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @openit
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            @openit said in MS 2012 or 2016 to learn and certify ?:

            1. Now we are using Windows Server 2012 R2, but 2016 is already in market, so may be better to start learning 2016 to be advanced and Certify in latest one ?

            Ideally you always want to learn and certify on what isn't on the market yet. But there are no educational materials for 2016 R2 yet, so you are stuck with 2016 as the latest thing that you can study in any way. It's already more mature than you actually would want to focus on, but it is what it is. But 2012 R2 is legacy and out of the question by educational standards. Ideally you'd want to have studied 2016 in late 2015 when the beta was out. That's the time to be working on a new tech - prior to release but after the final product is pretty well set in stone.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said in MS 2012 or 2016 to learn and certify ?:

              @scottalanmiller said in MS 2012 or 2016 to learn and certify ?:

              Unlike a job where you might 1% of the time have a reason to consider deploying an old version of software (like you already own it) education is not like that. You always educate forward, never backwards. Certifying on old tech has zero potential value compared to certifying on the latest.

              If a job needs you to learn something old, but you already know the new way - the company can train you on the old.

              And typically learning something new teaches you about the old stuff, but not vice versa. That's why even if you run 2012 R2, you want to hire the guy with 2016 training, not the gyu with the same 2012 R2 training.

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              • openitO
                openit
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                @scottalanmiller @Dashrender @DustinB3403
                Thanks for quick response, I agreed on learning latest one (2016).

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @openit
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                  @openit said in MS 2012 or 2016 to learn and certify ?:

                  1. I seen one test/mock paper on MCSA Windows Server 2012, it was very strange for me, even though I am working on Windows server, and there seems to be lot of theory and other things involved in Certification point of view.

                  Yes there is, as there should be. The hope for the Microsoft certs is that you learn the IT behind the product, not just which buttons to push. It's the MCSA exams that taught me about RAID theory. They've always been very good.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    Also, should go without saying... build a huge home lab and test EVERYTHING hands on while doing it.

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                    • openitO
                      openit @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in MS 2012 or 2016 to learn and certify ?:

                      @openit said in MS 2012 or 2016 to learn and certify ?:

                      1. Now we are using Windows Server 2012 R2, but 2016 is already in market, so may be better to start learning 2016 to be advanced and Certify in latest one ?

                      But there are no educational materials for 2016 R2 yet, so you are stuck with 2016 as the latest thing that you can study in any way. It's already more mature than you actually would want to focus on, but it is what it is.

                      One another concern is, I will be having holidays from tomorrow for some reason, so I am thinking to buy (if require) PDF material on MCSA 2016 to starting studying immediately, as book delivery may take long for Middle East region.

                      Thanks !
                      @Dashrender @DustinB3403

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                      • openitO
                        openit @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in MS 2012 or 2016 to learn and certify ?:

                        Also, should go without saying... build a huge home lab and test EVERYTHING hands on while doing it.

                        Noted and sure I will do the same.

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @openit
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                          @openit

                          Definitely 2016. No reason to do 2012 when everything is covered in 2016, plus new features and such that isn't in 2012.

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                          • openitO
                            openit
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                            Going to study MCSA Windows server 2016. And will get guide one of the following

                            1. By William Panek

                            https://www.amazon.com/MCSA-Windows-Server-Study-Guide/dp/1119359341

                            1. Microsoft Press
                              https://www.microsoftpressstore.com/store/exam-ref-70-740-installation-storage-and-compute-with-9780...
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                            • mlnewsM
                              mlnews @openit
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                              @openit did you see that MSPress has a sale on today?

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                              • mlnewsM
                                mlnews
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                                Here is the email that came today...

                                MSPress Sale

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce
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                                  Make sure you use TechNet Virtual Labs. They are seriously excellent.

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                                  • openitO
                                    openit @mlnews
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                                    @mlnews said in MS 2012 or 2016 to learn and certify ?:

                                    @openit did you see that MSPress has a sale on today?

                                    Nope, I was not aware. Also there is no 70-740 in your listed offered books.
                                    Anyhow, still I am seeing 35% discount if I wish to buy immediately.

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                                    • openitO
                                      openit @Obsolesce
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                                      @Tim_G said in MS 2012 or 2016 to learn and certify ?:

                                      Make sure you use TechNet Virtual Labs. They are seriously excellent.

                                      Sure.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @openit
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                                        @openit said in MS 2012 or 2016 to learn and certify ?:

                                        @mlnews said in MS 2012 or 2016 to learn and certify ?:

                                        @openit did you see that MSPress has a sale on today?

                                        Nope, I was not aware. Also there is no 70-740 in your listed offered books.
                                        Anyhow, still I am seeing 35% discount if I wish to buy immediately.

                                        Sales are often just one day.

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