Home Anti-virus
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@nadnerB said in Home Anti-virus:
@IRJ & @Francesco-Provino That's all fancy, spankeriffic, and all but my hardware is incapable of virtualisation....
Exactly. All these "free" things being suggested would cause me to have to invest in new hardware, learn VMWare/KVM/XS etc, all just so I can check email or look up info on google. Or I could take the free webroot license I own, apply it to my current machine, and mission accomplished. All the above suggestions also destroy my work/life balance (no interest in loud ass, power sucking virtual host machine hosts in my house). It's like trying to invent a new desalinization process when all you really need is to stick a barrel out to gather rainwater.
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@nadnerB said in Home Anti-virus:
@IRJ & @Francesco-Provino That's all fancy, spankeriffic, and all but my hardware is incapable of virtualisation....
I don't think it's possible with any x86 machine that has <15 years. Even a Pentium 4 can do regular virtualization (no hw assisted) with virtualbox or vmware… I'm pretty sure of that!
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@nadnerB said in Home Anti-virus:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Anti-virus:
@nadnerB said in Home Anti-virus:
@IRJ & @Francesco-Provino That's all fancy, spankeriffic, and all but my hardware is incapable of virtualisation....
How is that even possible?
My bad. I was thinking type 1. Type 2 does work. I hate it but it works.
How is that possible, though? What is stopping a Type 1 from working?
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@Francesco-Provino said in Home Anti-virus:
I don't think it's possible with any x86 machine that has <15 years. Even a Pentium 4 can do regular virtualization (no hw assisted) with virtualbox or vmware… I'm pretty sure of that!
It was only some P4s. The early P4s could not, but by the Pentium D era towards the end of the P4, they could.
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@Francesco-Provino @scottalanmiller none of that info changes what the OP asked. "Running a disposable VM" is not a type of antivirus.
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@nadnerB said in Home Anti-virus:
So I'm having some ridiculous issues with Avast Free AV and I'm considering switching to something else.
Details here: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=203267.0What have you got for AV?
I'm rocking Malwarebytes + Windows Defender on Windows 10. Malwarebytes 3.0+ has be buggy with its trying to do so many task... but so far I am safe from ads on pornhub. ;)\
EDIT: I have paid version of Malwarebytes. On my other machine I only have Windows Defender, but I rarely visit websites other than Netflix, Hulu, and Youtube on my other machine.
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@RojoLoco said in Home Anti-virus:
@Francesco-Provino @scottalanmiller none of that info changes what the OP asked. "Running a disposable VM" is not a type of antivirus.
Well, it sort of is.
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@scottalanmiller said in Home Anti-virus:
@RojoLoco said in Home Anti-virus:
@Francesco-Provino @scottalanmiller none of that info changes what the OP asked. "Running a disposable VM" is not a type of antivirus.
Well, it sort of is.
Only far outside the scope of the original question.
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@RojoLoco said in Home Anti-virus:
@Francesco-Provino @scottalanmiller none of that info changes what the OP asked. "Running a disposable VM" is not a type of antivirus.
Originally I was going to agree with you. But now that I think about it running a Windows VM with a snapshot prior to when you're accessing the internet and restoring to that snapshot would be a pretty manageable solution. Especially with machines capable of doing virtualbox.
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@coliver said in Home Anti-virus:
@RojoLoco said in Home Anti-virus:
@Francesco-Provino @scottalanmiller none of that info changes what the OP asked. "Running a disposable VM" is not a type of antivirus.
Originally I was going to agree with you. But now that I think about it running a Windows VM with a snapshot prior to when you're accessing the internet and restoring to that snapshot would be a pretty manageable solution. Especially with machines capable of doing virtualbox.
Not on a box that would struggle with the extra load of virtualization. Being able to run a VM and being able to run a VM well are two different animals.
Bottom line: hey, @nadnerB, were you looking for an AV software or a bunch of "just use virtualization" advice?
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@RojoLoco said in Home Anti-virus:
@coliver said in Home Anti-virus:
@RojoLoco said in Home Anti-virus:
@Francesco-Provino @scottalanmiller none of that info changes what the OP asked. "Running a disposable VM" is not a type of antivirus.
Originally I was going to agree with you. But now that I think about it running a Windows VM with a snapshot prior to when you're accessing the internet and restoring to that snapshot would be a pretty manageable solution. Especially with machines capable of doing virtualbox.
Not on a box that would struggle with the extra load of virtualization. Being able to run a VM and being able to run a VM well are two different animals.
Bottom line: hey, @nadnerB, were you looking for an AV software or a bunch of "just use virtualization" advice?
That's fair. I get it's out of the scope of the question but that's kind of a thing we do around here.
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@RojoLoco said in Home Anti-virus:
@coliver said in Home Anti-virus:
@RojoLoco said in Home Anti-virus:
@Francesco-Provino @scottalanmiller none of that info changes what the OP asked. "Running a disposable VM" is not a type of antivirus.
Originally I was going to agree with you. But now that I think about it running a Windows VM with a snapshot prior to when you're accessing the internet and restoring to that snapshot would be a pretty manageable solution. Especially with machines capable of doing virtualbox.
Not on a box that would struggle with the extra load of virtualization. Being able to run a VM and being able to run a VM well are two different animals.
Bottom line: hey, @nadnerB, were you looking for an AV software or a bunch of "just use virtualization" advice?
Hey, I already provided TWO non-VM pieces of advice...
Use Defender or move to Linux. I think the OP is answered, now we are giving broader options.
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@coliver said in Home Anti-virus:
@RojoLoco said in Home Anti-virus:
@coliver said in Home Anti-virus:
@RojoLoco said in Home Anti-virus:
@Francesco-Provino @scottalanmiller none of that info changes what the OP asked. "Running a disposable VM" is not a type of antivirus.
Originally I was going to agree with you. But now that I think about it running a Windows VM with a snapshot prior to when you're accessing the internet and restoring to that snapshot would be a pretty manageable solution. Especially with machines capable of doing virtualbox.
Not on a box that would struggle with the extra load of virtualization. Being able to run a VM and being able to run a VM well are two different animals.
Bottom line: hey, @nadnerB, were you looking for an AV software or a bunch of "just use virtualization" advice?
That's fair. I get it's out of the scope of the question but that's kind of a thing we do around here.
It's that...
- Original scope implies that the OP knows the answer before asking the question, which makes no sense
- Once original scope is fully covered, all of teh value is in expanding the scope
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This make me wonder... if my computer has DeepFreeze installed, and it is enabled. If I caught a virus will it be remove the next restart?
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@stess said in Home Anti-virus:
This make me wonder... if my computer has DeepFreeze installed, and it is enabled. If I caught a virus will it be remove the next restart?
Deepfreeze locks the system state. You should be virus free when the machine restarts. However there have been some malware that can get out of the deepfreeze jail and infect the non-volatile file system.
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@coliver said in Home Anti-virus:
@stess said in Home Anti-virus:
This make me wonder... if my computer has DeepFreeze installed, and it is enabled. If I caught a virus will it be remove the next restart?
Deepfreeze locks the system state. You should be virus free when the machine restarts. However there have been some malware that can get out of the deepfreeze jail and infect the non-volatile file system.
interesting..... thanks for the input.
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@stess said in Home Anti-virus:
This make me wonder... if my computer has DeepFreeze installed, and it is enabled. If I caught a virus will it be remove the next restart?
Yes, that's exactly the kind of use case that that is for.
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@RojoLoco said in Home Anti-virus:
@nadnerB said in Home Anti-virus:
@IRJ & @Francesco-Provino That's all fancy, spankeriffic, and all but my hardware is incapable of virtualisation....
Exactly. All these "free" things being suggested would cause me to have to invest in new hardware, learn VMWare/KVM/XS etc, all just so I can check email or look up info on google. Or I could take the free webroot license I own, apply it to my current machine, and mission accomplished. All the above suggestions also destroy my work/life balance (no interest in loud ass, power sucking virtual host machine hosts in my house). It's like trying to invent a new desalinization process when all you really need is to stick a barrel out to gather rainwater.
It's so damn easy and requires hardly any resources. My Windows 8.1 VM that I use for web browsing has 1GB of Ram and I've ran it on as low as 512MB for extended periods of time. Every desktop in the last 15 years can handle that.
Don't want to pay for a Windows license? Use Ubuntu or another linux flavor with FF and/or chrome. I run about 10 VMs on my latpop. I usually only run 1 or 2 at a time, but I have run as many as 6 at a time.
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Even better, a Linux VM with a lightweight WM has barely any ram overhead over the regular browser. Near 100Mb for kernel + X11 + some system daemons. I think an antivirus with fancy stuff can waste much more resources…
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@IRJ said in Home Anti-virus:
@RojoLoco said in Home Anti-virus:
@nadnerB said in Home Anti-virus:
@IRJ & @Francesco-Provino That's all fancy, spankeriffic, and all but my hardware is incapable of virtualisation....
Exactly. All these "free" things being suggested would cause me to have to invest in new hardware, learn VMWare/KVM/XS etc, all just so I can check email or look up info on google. Or I could take the free webroot license I own, apply it to my current machine, and mission accomplished. All the above suggestions also destroy my work/life balance (no interest in loud ass, power sucking virtual host machine hosts in my house). It's like trying to invent a new desalinization process when all you really need is to stick a barrel out to gather rainwater.
It's so damn easy and requires hardly any resources. My Windows 8.1 VM that I use for web browsing has 1GB of Ram and I've ran it on as low as 512MB for extended periods of time. Every desktop in the last 15 years can handle that.
Don't want to pay for a Windows license? Use Ubuntu or another linux flavor with FF and/or chrome. I run about 10 VMs on my latpop. I usually only run 1 or 2 at a time, but I have run as many as 6 at a time.
And honestly, for ONLY web browsing, you dont' want Windows in a VM, you want Linux.
