best hosted Windows server
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From this thread: https://mangolassi.it/topic/13737/checking-on-patch-levels-with-multiple-clients-ninite-pro/13
I'd like to build a cloud Windows Server. I know some have had issues with Azure. What about AWS? I know vultr is popular, but I can't seem to find pricing on the Windows Server license part of it. -
Windows is an additional $16 a month per Vultr instance I believe. I pretty much use Vultr exclusively right now as test servers while I'm at work. When I go home I use my own XS Host to spin up whatever I want to play with
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@wirestyle22 said in best hosted Windows server:
Windows is an additional $16 a month per Vultr instance I believe. I pretty much use Vultr exclusively right now as test servers while I'm at work. When I go home I use my own XS Host to spin up whatever I want to play with
Why not open your server up to the world? Use a jump box and ssh and you'd be good to go.
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@coliver said in best hosted Windows server:
@wirestyle22 said in best hosted Windows server:
Windows is an additional $16 a month per Vultr instance I believe. I pretty much use Vultr exclusively right now as test servers while I'm at work. When I go home I use my own XS Host to spin up whatever I want to play with
Why not open your server up to the world? Use a jump box and ssh and you'd be good to go.
I could I just haven't
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@wirestyle22 said in best hosted Windows server:
Windows is an additional $16 a month per Vultr instance I believe. I pretty much use Vultr exclusively right now as test servers while I'm at work. When I go home I use my own XS Host to spin up whatever I want to play with
Yes. It's $16 for the license. Says it on the OS box when you select it.
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Vultr is certainly who I would use. Far easier than AWS or Azure, too.
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But if he owns a license key for Windows server, couldn't he just upload an ISO and apply his key, and not pay the $16/month for licensing?
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@fuznutz04 Yes. This is if you want to use the Vultr image of Windows Server 2012 R2/2016
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@wirestyle22 Right. I wonder if they do anything "special" to their image like adding specific drivers, etc.
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@fuznutz04 In my experience everything special that they do is not beneficial, like turning off
selinux
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@fuznutz04 said in best hosted Windows server:
But if he owns a license key for Windows server, couldn't he just upload an ISO and apply his key, and not pay the $16/month for licensing?
No, Windows doesn't work that way.
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@wirestyle22 said in best hosted Windows server:
@fuznutz04 Yes. This is if you want to use the Vultr image of Windows Server 2012 R2/2016
No, you can't do that.
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@fuznutz04 said in best hosted Windows server:
@wirestyle22 Right. I wonder if they do anything "special" to their image like adding specific drivers, etc.
Yes, they do. But there is no tech limiting you from doing what you describe, just licensing problems. Because you have to license the entire Vultr cloud because the workload can run anywhere. You don't know how many CPUs they have, how many cores, how many nodes. Assume quad CPU, 12 cores boxes with 4,000 nodes per datacenter. How many Windows standard licenses do you need to run one VM there?
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This older article is about Cloud@Cost where there is no way to run Windows. Vultr has full Windows licensing options, but you can't skip them for the reasons that C@C could not do it at all.
https://mangolassi.it/topic/4842/why-you-cannot-effectively-run-windows-on-cloudatcost
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@scottalanmiller I stand corrected
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@scottalanmiller said in best hosted Windows server:
Vultr is certainly who I would use. Far easier than AWS or Azure, too.
Azure is pretty easy with a lot of options:
https://azuremarketplace.microsoft.com/en-us/marketplace/apps/category/compute
But cost wise, it looks like Vultr is cheaper.
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@scottalanmiller said in best hosted Windows server:
https://mangolassi.it/topic/4842/why-you-cannot-effectively-run-windows-on-cloudatcost
Where is the dislike button? That sucks. I understand it, but that really is unfortunate.
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@Tim_G said in best hosted Windows server:
@scottalanmiller said in best hosted Windows server:
Vultr is certainly who I would use. Far easier than AWS or Azure, too.
Azure is pretty easy with a lot of options:
The top option for an SMB is a console. Azure doesn't offer a console. Nothing else they offer makes it competitive with Vultr in an "ease of use" way. Nothing wrong with not offering a console, AWS does not either. It's the "cloud" way to do things. But SMBs have no use for clouds, they need VPS. Vultr is a VPS build on cloud, so a much better fit for the SMB audience.
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@Tim_G said in best hosted Windows server:
@scottalanmiller said in best hosted Windows server:
Vultr is certainly who I would use. Far easier than AWS or Azure, too.
Azure is pretty easy with a lot of options:
https://azuremarketplace.microsoft.com/en-us/marketplace/apps/category/compute
But cost wise, it looks like Vultr is cheaper.
Vultr is certainly cheaper. We have 1 box running in Azure, and we've not had any issues/downtime in over a year. fingers crossed However, a lot of people on here have had bad experiences at some point.
If I was to spin up a new Windows workload somewhere in the future, it probably would not be at Azure, due to cost.
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@fuznutz04 said in best hosted Windows server:
Vultr is certainly cheaper. We have 1 box running in Azure, and we've not had any issues/downtime in over a year. fingers crossed However, a lot of people on here have had bad experiences at some point.
The "problem" with Azure is that instead of 100 people all having five minutes of outages, they have five people who have 100 minutes of outages. It's the same downtime average, but hits differently. It means that for people for whom it works, it often really works. But the risk of failure is really high - meaning that unlike an Amazon failure that is often quite small, the failure might be insanely large if you happen to get hit.
It's a lot like a T1 vs. cable line. Cable lines typically drop a few minutes a year, T1s tend to go decades without a missed packet - then go down for a week at a single shot.
