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    • MattSpellerM
      MattSpeller
      last edited by MattSpeller

      So per day you need about 1kwh to run everything at max (a safe assumption)

      So you need to generate 1kwh+ over ~7h of sun

      1000/7=143w

      spec 200w of panels and you're solid

      probably go for 2kwh pack for wiggle room + 50% degradation over time

      I like to massively over build things so YMMV

      Probably don't need near that much solar if I'm being honest - I think your draw will not be more than 0.5kwh/day but you can check that with a kill-a-watt or something

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      • gjacobseG
        gjacobse @MattSpeller
        last edited by

        @MattSpeller said in Offgrid PoE options:

        So per day you need about 1kwh to run everything at max (a safe assumption)

        So you need to generate 1kwh+ over ~7h of sun

        1000/7=143w

        spec 200w of panels and you're solid

        probably go for 2kwh pack for wiggle room + 50% degradation over time

        I like to massively over build things so YMMV

        Probably don't need near that much solar if I'm being honest - I think your draw will not be more than 0.5kwh/day but you can check that with a kill-a-watt or something

        yea,.. I rather like to over build / complicate things ... so - just like to error on the side of caution also.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @gjacobse
          last edited by

          @gjacobse said in Offgrid PoE options:

          @MattSpeller said in Offgrid PoE options:

          So per day you need about 1kwh to run everything at max (a safe assumption)

          So you need to generate 1kwh+ over ~7h of sun

          1000/7=143w

          spec 200w of panels and you're solid

          probably go for 2kwh pack for wiggle room + 50% degradation over time

          I like to massively over build things so YMMV

          Probably don't need near that much solar if I'm being honest - I think your draw will not be more than 0.5kwh/day but you can check that with a kill-a-watt or something

          yea,.. I rather like to over build / complicate things ... so - just like to error on the side of caution also.

          Over complicating things is erroring on the side of reckless actually.

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          • gjacobseG
            gjacobse @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in Offgrid PoE options:

            @gjacobse said in Offgrid PoE options:

            @MattSpeller said in Offgrid PoE options:

            So per day you need about 1kwh to run everything at max (a safe assumption)

            So you need to generate 1kwh+ over ~7h of sun

            1000/7=143w

            spec 200w of panels and you're solid

            probably go for 2kwh pack for wiggle room + 50% degradation over time

            I like to massively over build things so YMMV

            Probably don't need near that much solar if I'm being honest - I think your draw will not be more than 0.5kwh/day but you can check that with a kill-a-watt or something

            yea,.. I rather like to over build / complicate things ... so - just like to error on the side of caution also.

            Over complicating things is erroring on the side of reckless actually.

            I'm no where near the level of NASA though... but - different reasons there.

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            • TeleFoxT
              TeleFox
              last edited by

              Power inverter...

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @TeleFox
                last edited by

                @TeleFox said in Offgrid PoE options:

                Power inverter...

                Power inverters are great but inefficient. So for a field day with a DC power source, I would attempt to keep as much DC as possible.

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                • gjacobseG
                  gjacobse @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said in Offgrid PoE options:

                  @TeleFox said in Offgrid PoE options:

                  Power inverter...

                  Power inverters are great but inefficient. So for a field day with a DC power source, I would attempt to keep as much DC as possible.

                  That would be the preference...

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @gjacobse
                    last edited by JaredBusch

                    @gjacobse said in Offgrid PoE options:

                    @JaredBusch said in Offgrid PoE options:

                    @TeleFox said in Offgrid PoE options:

                    Power inverter...

                    Power inverters are great but inefficient. So for a field day with a DC power source, I would attempt to keep as much DC as possible.

                    That would be the preference...

                    That is why i recommended the trendnet PoE injector. it uses a 12vdc source with a wall wart normally. so it shoudl be easy to make a connector for.

                    The model i linked was gigabit, you probably don't need that one.

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                    • TeleFoxT
                      TeleFox @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @JaredBusch with a power conditioner?

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @TeleFox
                        last edited by

                        @TeleFox said in Offgrid PoE options:

                        @JaredBusch with a power conditioner?

                        I assume that @gjacobse is handling any DC conditioning needed.

                        I was wrong that it was 12vdc input though.
                        Here is mine at home.
                        0_1493404794088_IMG_6121.JPG

                        @gjacobse you may want to looks for a 24v passive PoE injector with a DC input. The UBNT ones are all AC.

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                        • TeleFoxT
                          TeleFox
                          last edited by

                          But wouldn't injectors require a ton of plugs to be laid out?

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                          • MattSpellerM
                            MattSpeller @TeleFox
                            last edited by

                            @TeleFox said in Offgrid PoE options:

                            But wouldn't injectors require a ton of plugs to be laid out?

                            How so?

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                            • TeleFoxT
                              TeleFox @MattSpeller
                              last edited by

                              @MattSpeller Because each POE injector requires an outlet to power it and push the power inline to the cable.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @TeleFox
                                last edited by JaredBusch

                                @TeleFox said in Offgrid PoE options:

                                But wouldn't injectors require a ton of plugs to be laid out?

                                That injector is 48VDC input. So, assuming he has 48VDC out of his solar array, he can simply make a standard center positive connector out of the solar array to the injector.

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                                • gjacobseG
                                  gjacobse @TeleFox
                                  last edited by

                                  @TeleFox

                                  If you run solely on battery - you should not need a conditioner.

                                  @JaredBusch

                                  Thanks for the update on the TPLink.

                                  Part of the 'ISSUE' is simple voltage.. The included adapter with the EnGenius is 12v. But the PoE injector is 48v. The UBNT uses 24v.

                                  And while they are just multiples at less than 2AMPs,.. it's that differences and the cabling that makes it a pain.

                                  The EnGenius has a coax power jack, the UBNT does not.

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                                  • TeleFoxT
                                    TeleFox
                                    last edited by

                                    @gjacobse said in Offgrid PoE options:

                                    hanks for the update on the TP

                                    I guess if you just need one phone its not a big deal I thought he was trying to lay out more though because he was discussing poe from a switch..

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @TeleFox
                                      last edited by

                                      @TeleFox said in Offgrid PoE options:

                                      @gjacobse said in Offgrid PoE options:

                                      hanks for the update on the TP

                                      I guess if you just need one phone its not a big deal I thought he was trying to lay out more though because he was discussing poe from a switch..

                                      He is doing a point to point wireless bridge to a local access point for wifi if I understand the project correctly.

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                                      • gjacobseG
                                        gjacobse @gjacobse
                                        last edited by

                                        @gjacobse

                                        The 'Other' issue is that when I lay things out and check with a DVM, the UBNT supply is flat 24v, but when I put the Engenius PoE on,.. the voltage bounces... so it's one of those - triple check and use extreme caution and then check again..

                                        This is the PoE 802.3af standard

                                        0_1493405844602_2017-04-28 14_55_45-Power over Ethernet - Wikipedia.png

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                                        • TeleFoxT
                                          TeleFox @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          @JaredBusch said in Offgrid PoE options:

                                          al access point

                                          Oh I was thinking the Engenius was the phone side of the house 😄

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                                          • gjacobseG
                                            gjacobse @TeleFox
                                            last edited by

                                            @TeleFox said in Offgrid PoE options:

                                            @JaredBusch said in Offgrid PoE options:

                                            al access point

                                            Oh I was thinking the Engenius was the phone side of the house 😄

                                            No phone will be used. just a portable point to point network

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