Dual-WAN Router Recommendations
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@scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
So update on this:
... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,
Don't you mean 2/5?
and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.
Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.
The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K
Am I looking at the wrong one?
That would be a great one for what you need to do with it.
For almost twice the price, like @Dashrender said, is it worth the double memory for a home network? Even if my combined internet speed is 200Mb/sec, is it worth the extra upfront money?
Ah, at only 200Mb/sec, you should only NEED 400mb/s, so the ER-X and it's 500mb/s (bits, not bytes unless I've missed a huge trend in what ISPs are quoting), so yeah, stick with the ER-X.
Also, more than slightly off topic. I was always trained that a capital letter denoted bytes while a lowercase letter denoted bits. So networking was always 100mb/s and file sizes were always 100MB.
See, I always saw it was based on whether the "b" was capital or not. MB = megabyte and Mb = megabit. But I also see mbps and Mbps used in networking, so I'm not sure what the "official" standard is.
Mbps is Megabits. MBps is Megabytes. There is no lower case M. And really it should be Mb/s and MB/s.
Remember that when you are dealing with only bits and bytes it HAS to b/s and B/s. If you use any letter other than the b/B to indicate that, you lack the ability to have it work consistently.
Ok, I usually always see the M as capital but I have seen documentation, posts, and advertisements using mb, and I have usually chalked it up to either non-technical marketing people doing the typing or just laziness in typing it.
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@thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
So update on this:
... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,
Don't you mean 2/5?
and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.
Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.
The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K
Am I looking at the wrong one?
That would be a great one for what you need to do with it.
For almost twice the price, like @Dashrender said, is it worth the double memory for a home network? Even if my combined internet speed is 200Mb/sec, is it worth the extra upfront money?
Ah, at only 200Mb/sec, you should only NEED 400mb/s, so the ER-X and it's 500mb/s (bits, not bytes unless I've missed a huge trend in what ISPs are quoting), so yeah, stick with the ER-X.
Also, more than slightly off topic. I was always trained that a capital letter denoted bytes while a lowercase letter denoted bits. So networking was always 100mb/s and file sizes were always 100MB.
See, I always saw it was based on whether the "b" was capital or not. MB = megabyte and Mb = megabit. But I also see mbps and Mbps used in networking, so I'm not sure what the "official" standard is.
It does actually matter technically, but no one uses the standards in a standard fashion.
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@JaredBusch said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
So update on this:
... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,
Don't you mean 2/5?
and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.
Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.
The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K
Am I looking at the wrong one?
That would be a great one for what you need to do with it.
For almost twice the price, like @Dashrender said, is it worth the double memory for a home network? Even if my combined internet speed is 200Mb/sec, is it worth the extra upfront money?
Ah, at only 200Mb/sec, you should only NEED 400mb/s, so the ER-X and it's 500mb/s (bits, not bytes unless I've missed a huge trend in what ISPs are quoting), so yeah, stick with the ER-X.
Also, more than slightly off topic. I was always trained that a capital letter denoted bytes while a lowercase letter denoted bits. So networking was always 100mb/s and file sizes were always 100MB.
See, I always saw it was based on whether the "b" was capital or not. MB = megabyte and Mb = megabit. But I also see mbps and Mbps used in networking, so I'm not sure what the "official" standard is.
It does actually matter technically, but no one uses the standards in a standard fashion.
I actually posted about Curtis getting this wrong just this morning as it told someone bad info in a VOIP thread again.
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I've only noticed in the last few months a sudden shift in using it correctly to people thinking that random other letters could be used to mean bits or bytes. People not knowing how to use it at all I've always seen. But the K/k or M/m thing I've only noticed recently. Some new trendy misinformation I can only imagine. Like people trying to sound cool using "revert" to mean "reply".
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@scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@JaredBusch said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
So update on this:
... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,
Don't you mean 2/5?
and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.
Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.
The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K
Am I looking at the wrong one?
That would be a great one for what you need to do with it.
For almost twice the price, like @Dashrender said, is it worth the double memory for a home network? Even if my combined internet speed is 200Mb/sec, is it worth the extra upfront money?
Ah, at only 200Mb/sec, you should only NEED 400mb/s, so the ER-X and it's 500mb/s (bits, not bytes unless I've missed a huge trend in what ISPs are quoting), so yeah, stick with the ER-X.
Also, more than slightly off topic. I was always trained that a capital letter denoted bytes while a lowercase letter denoted bits. So networking was always 100mb/s and file sizes were always 100MB.
See, I always saw it was based on whether the "b" was capital or not. MB = megabyte and Mb = megabit. But I also see mbps and Mbps used in networking, so I'm not sure what the "official" standard is.
It does actually matter technically, but no one uses the standards in a standard fashion.
I actually posted about Curtis getting this wrong just this morning as it told someone bad info in a VOIP thread again.
Well the K/k is the only one that does have a standard for upper and lower. The rest are always upper.
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Yeah, that's weird. I wonder why that is that kb, KB, Kb and kB are okay but only Mb and MB.
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@scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
I've only noticed in the last few months a sudden shift in using it correctly to people thinking that random other letters could be used to mean bits or bytes. People not knowing how to use it at all I've always seen. But the K/k or M/m thing I've only noticed recently. Some new trendy misinformation I can only imagine. Like people trying to sound cool using "revert" to mean "reply".
In my experience, people tend to do what @thanksajdotcom said. They capitalize based on the Byte/bit capitalization.
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The k never means what Curtis said, though. He told someone it was kb/s not Kb/s meaning bits vs. bytes.
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@JaredBusch said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
I've only noticed in the last few months a sudden shift in using it correctly to people thinking that random other letters could be used to mean bits or bytes. People not knowing how to use it at all I've always seen. But the K/k or M/m thing I've only noticed recently. Some new trendy misinformation I can only imagine. Like people trying to sound cool using "revert" to mean "reply".
In my experience, people tend to do what @thanksajdotcom said. They capitalize based on the Byte/bit capitalization.
Yes, over the 30 years I've known about the notation, I've never seen it used any other way until the last few months. It's been an established standard for SO long.
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@scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
The k never means what Curtis said, though. He told someone it was kb/s not Kb/s meaning bits vs. bytes.
Yeah, but Curtis...
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@scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@JaredBusch said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
I've only noticed in the last few months a sudden shift in using it correctly to people thinking that random other letters could be used to mean bits or bytes. People not knowing how to use it at all I've always seen. But the K/k or M/m thing I've only noticed recently. Some new trendy misinformation I can only imagine. Like people trying to sound cool using "revert" to mean "reply".
In my experience, people tend to do what @thanksajdotcom said. They capitalize based on the Byte/bit capitalization.
Yes, over the 30 years I've known about the notation, I've never seen it used any other way until the last few months. It's been an established standard for SO long.
These settings were not standardized officially by IEEE until 2002. See the wiki link above. Or this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1541-2002
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@JaredBusch said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@JaredBusch said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
I've only noticed in the last few months a sudden shift in using it correctly to people thinking that random other letters could be used to mean bits or bytes. People not knowing how to use it at all I've always seen. But the K/k or M/m thing I've only noticed recently. Some new trendy misinformation I can only imagine. Like people trying to sound cool using "revert" to mean "reply".
In my experience, people tend to do what @thanksajdotcom said. They capitalize based on the Byte/bit capitalization.
Yes, over the 30 years I've known about the notation, I've never seen it used any other way until the last few months. It's been an established standard for SO long.
These settings were not standardized officially by IEEE until 2002. See the wiki link above.
Sure, but they were IT standards long before that. IEEE is just a private organization that decided to take that existing standard and publish it themselves.
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@scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
I've only noticed in the last few months a sudden shift in using it correctly to people thinking that random other letters could be used to mean bits or bytes. People not knowing how to use it at all I've always seen. But the K/k or M/m thing I've only noticed recently. Some new trendy misinformation I can only imagine. Like people trying to sound cool using "revert" to mean "reply".
I've seen it longer than that but never consistently. It seems to fade in and out of popularity, especially when it comes to commercials for ISPs. And I hear revert instead of reply all the time, but that's because my support team is in India.
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@thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
I've only noticed in the last few months a sudden shift in using it correctly to people thinking that random other letters could be used to mean bits or bytes. People not knowing how to use it at all I've always seen. But the K/k or M/m thing I've only noticed recently. Some new trendy misinformation I can only imagine. Like people trying to sound cool using "revert" to mean "reply".
I've seen it longer than that but never consistently. It seems to fade in and out of popularity, especially when it comes to commercials for ISPs. And I hear revert instead of reply all the time, but that's because my support team is in India.
YOu mean they try some fake English then.... revert to the real meaning again?
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@scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
I've only noticed in the last few months a sudden shift in using it correctly to people thinking that random other letters could be used to mean bits or bytes. People not knowing how to use it at all I've always seen. But the K/k or M/m thing I've only noticed recently. Some new trendy misinformation I can only imagine. Like people trying to sound cool using "revert" to mean "reply".
I've seen it longer than that but never consistently. It seems to fade in and out of popularity, especially when it comes to commercials for ISPs. And I hear revert instead of reply all the time, but that's because my support team is in India.
YOu mean they try some fake English then.... revert to the real meaning again?
They are just doing the needful
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@thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
@scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
I've only noticed in the last few months a sudden shift in using it correctly to people thinking that random other letters could be used to mean bits or bytes. People not knowing how to use it at all I've always seen. But the K/k or M/m thing I've only noticed recently. Some new trendy misinformation I can only imagine. Like people trying to sound cool using "revert" to mean "reply".
I've seen it longer than that but never consistently. It seems to fade in and out of popularity, especially when it comes to commercials for ISPs. And I hear revert instead of reply all the time, but that's because my support team is in India.
YOu mean they try some fake English then.... revert to the real meaning again?
They are just doing the needful
At least that is just an odd word, not a misuse of a real very specific one.
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Doing the needful is an uncommon turn of phrase, but totally appropriate.
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Thanks for the correction guys.
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@travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
Thanks for the correction guys.
Keeping you on your toes.
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@scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:
Doing the needful is an uncommon turn of phrase, but totally appropriate.
It's not commonly spoken anywhere outside of India that I've ever heard. At a former job, they gave all the customer-facing reps "American" names to use, and when I'd see: "Mrs. Jones, we've resolved this on our end. Please do the needful. -Mike" I would just facepalm, because, no. It was a dead giveaway but even after telling the staff that, it was not changed. Oh well, the company was dishonest anyways.
