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    • Son of Jor-ElS
      Son of Jor-El @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

      @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

      @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

      @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

      Could you imagine being a passenger on that plane? I already hate to fly.

      I actually don't have a problem with the general idea.

      and if the rumor I've heard is true,

      that most commercial flights today are auto pilot take off and land - oh and fly the course

      then no, I don't really have a problem with this.

      That's a rumor. More hand flying has been done for a couple of years now.

      Why is that?

      I believe it was in response to a crash in San Francisco where the pilot lacked the critical skills to correct what was going on and everyone died in the crash.

      The FAA recommended it. I think this article touches on it.

      https://www.nbaa.org/ops/safety/20130125-faa-recommends-pilots-spend-more-time-hand-flying-their-aircraft.php

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      • Son of Jor-ElS
        Son of Jor-El
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        That article has a PDF of the actual FAA document.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
          last edited by

          The FAA is recommending humans fly more often, than say a computer, which has a very limited chance of a royal cluster f..... yeah I'm not listening to the FAA any more..

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          • Son of Jor-ElS
            Son of Jor-El @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

            The FAA is recommending humans fly more often, than say a computer, which has a very limited chance of a royal cluster f..... yeah I'm not listening to the FAA any more..

            Ask the people on the flight from Rio to Paris where the PITOT tubes froze and there was no autopilot? You can't, they all died because the co-pilot could figure out the plane was in a stall even though the alarm went off over 200 times.

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            • coliverC
              coliver @Son of Jor-El
              last edited by

              @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

              Could you imagine being a passenger on that plane? I already hate to fly.

              I actually don't have a problem with the general idea.

              and if the rumor I've heard is true,

              that most commercial flights today are auto pilot take off and land - oh and fly the course

              then no, I don't really have a problem with this.

              That's a rumor. More hand flying has been done for a couple of years now.

              Why is that?

              I believe it was in response to a crash in San Francisco where the pilot lacked the critical skills to correct what was going on and everyone died in the crash.

              The FAA recommended it. I think this article touches on it.

              https://www.nbaa.org/ops/safety/20130125-faa-recommends-pilots-spend-more-time-hand-flying-their-aircraft.php

              The funny thing is that they are telling pilots to only be at the stick when it is least likely to screw up, at least that's how I'm reading it. "We want you to be better... but only when it matters the least."

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Son of Jor-El
                last edited by

                @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                Could you imagine being a passenger on that plane? I already hate to fly.

                I actually don't have a problem with the general idea.

                and if the rumor I've heard is true,

                that most commercial flights today are auto pilot take off and land - oh and fly the course

                then no, I don't really have a problem with this.

                That's a rumor. More hand flying has been done for a couple of years now.

                Why is that?

                I believe it was in response to a crash in San Francisco where the pilot lacked the critical skills to correct what was going on and everyone died in the crash.

                The FAA recommended it. I think this article touches on it.

                https://www.nbaa.org/ops/safety/20130125-faa-recommends-pilots-spend-more-time-hand-flying-their-aircraft.php

                So because pilots can't fly well enough, we'll use them more often? Great idea.

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                • wirestyle22W
                  wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  Could you imagine being a passenger on that plane? I already hate to fly.

                  I actually don't have a problem with the general idea.

                  and if the rumor I've heard is true,

                  that most commercial flights today are auto pilot take off and land - oh and fly the course

                  then no, I don't really have a problem with this.

                  That's a rumor. More hand flying has been done for a couple of years now.

                  Why is that?

                  I believe it was in response to a crash in San Francisco where the pilot lacked the critical skills to correct what was going on and everyone died in the crash.

                  The FAA recommended it. I think this article touches on it.

                  https://www.nbaa.org/ops/safety/20130125-faa-recommends-pilots-spend-more-time-hand-flying-their-aircraft.php

                  So because pilots can't fly well enough, we'll use them more often? Great idea.

                  Eh, I think that's a stretch. It's a skill that involves muscle memory. If you don't practice you lose some of your skill

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                  • Son of Jor-ElS
                    Son of Jor-El @coliver
                    last edited by

                    @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                    Could you imagine being a passenger on that plane? I already hate to fly.

                    I actually don't have a problem with the general idea.

                    and if the rumor I've heard is true,

                    that most commercial flights today are auto pilot take off and land - oh and fly the course

                    then no, I don't really have a problem with this.

                    That's a rumor. More hand flying has been done for a couple of years now.

                    Why is that?

                    I believe it was in response to a crash in San Francisco where the pilot lacked the critical skills to correct what was going on and everyone died in the crash.

                    The FAA recommended it. I think this article touches on it.

                    https://www.nbaa.org/ops/safety/20130125-faa-recommends-pilots-spend-more-time-hand-flying-their-aircraft.php

                    The funny thing is that they are telling pilots to only be at the stick when it is least likely to screw up, at least that's how I'm reading it. "We want you to be better... but only when it matters the least."

                    Yeah, that's how I read it too.

                    My friend tells me she use to throw it on autopilot at 500ft after takeoff and off at 50ft, but now she's hand flying it almost all the way down from cruising altitude.

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                    • Son of Jor-ElS
                      Son of Jor-El @wirestyle22
                      last edited by

                      @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      Could you imagine being a passenger on that plane? I already hate to fly.

                      I actually don't have a problem with the general idea.

                      and if the rumor I've heard is true,

                      that most commercial flights today are auto pilot take off and land - oh and fly the course

                      then no, I don't really have a problem with this.

                      That's a rumor. More hand flying has been done for a couple of years now.

                      Why is that?

                      I believe it was in response to a crash in San Francisco where the pilot lacked the critical skills to correct what was going on and everyone died in the crash.

                      The FAA recommended it. I think this article touches on it.

                      https://www.nbaa.org/ops/safety/20130125-faa-recommends-pilots-spend-more-time-hand-flying-their-aircraft.php

                      So because pilots can't fly well enough, we'll use them more often? Great idea.

                      Eh, I think that's a stretch. It's a skill that involves muscle memory. If you don't practice you lose some of your skill

                      That's true...even with a simple simulator.

                      I'm no pilot, but I practice with the runways at Area 51. With the HUGE runways I still screw up. It isn't easy!

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @Son of Jor-El
                        last edited by

                        @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        Could you imagine being a passenger on that plane? I already hate to fly.

                        I actually don't have a problem with the general idea.

                        and if the rumor I've heard is true,

                        that most commercial flights today are auto pilot take off and land - oh and fly the course

                        then no, I don't really have a problem with this.

                        That's a rumor. More hand flying has been done for a couple of years now.

                        Why is that?

                        I believe it was in response to a crash in San Francisco where the pilot lacked the critical skills to correct what was going on and everyone died in the crash.

                        The FAA recommended it. I think this article touches on it.

                        https://www.nbaa.org/ops/safety/20130125-faa-recommends-pilots-spend-more-time-hand-flying-their-aircraft.php

                        So because pilots can't fly well enough, we'll use them more often? Great idea.

                        Eh, I think that's a stretch. It's a skill that involves muscle memory. If you don't practice you lose some of your skill

                        That's true...even with a simple simulator.

                        I'm no pilot, but I practice with the runways at Area 51. With the HUGE runways I still screw up. It isn't easy!

                        I actually took a summer course when I was a teenager and flew a plane with assistance

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          A buddy of mine is a pilot. We fly sometimes.

                          Youtube Video

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                          • Son of Jor-ElS
                            Son of Jor-El @wirestyle22
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                            @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            Could you imagine being a passenger on that plane? I already hate to fly.

                            I actually don't have a problem with the general idea.

                            and if the rumor I've heard is true,

                            that most commercial flights today are auto pilot take off and land - oh and fly the course

                            then no, I don't really have a problem with this.

                            That's a rumor. More hand flying has been done for a couple of years now.

                            Why is that?

                            I believe it was in response to a crash in San Francisco where the pilot lacked the critical skills to correct what was going on and everyone died in the crash.

                            The FAA recommended it. I think this article touches on it.

                            https://www.nbaa.org/ops/safety/20130125-faa-recommends-pilots-spend-more-time-hand-flying-their-aircraft.php

                            So because pilots can't fly well enough, we'll use them more often? Great idea.

                            Eh, I think that's a stretch. It's a skill that involves muscle memory. If you don't practice you lose some of your skill

                            That's true...even with a simple simulator.

                            I'm no pilot, but I practice with the runways at Area 51. With the HUGE runways I still screw up. It isn't easy!

                            I actually took a summer course when I was a teenager and flew a plane with assistance

                            Nice!! I hate to fly as a passenger, but to pilot...oh yeah!! I'd do it.

                            My friend told me once "I would bring you up on a fight and let you fly, but it's been so long since I flew a small aircraft, I'd probably kill us both LOL'.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              Youtube Video

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                My dad trained as a pilot, but realized right when he was getting ready to get certified that he was afraid of heights and would black out if he looked out the windoes.

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                                • Son of Jor-ElS
                                  Son of Jor-El
                                  last edited by

                                  A simple sim like http://gefs-online.com/gefs.php is a lot of fun! I flew from Diego Garcia in the middle of the Indian Ocean to Moscow in that. I think I have like 300 hours of flying time just in that 1 sim. It's an easy sim, so you don't have to think too much about it...just enjoy.

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @Son of Jor-El
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                                    @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    Could you imagine being a passenger on that plane? I already hate to fly.

                                    I actually don't have a problem with the general idea.

                                    and if the rumor I've heard is true,

                                    that most commercial flights today are auto pilot take off and land - oh and fly the course

                                    then no, I don't really have a problem with this.

                                    That's a rumor. More hand flying has been done for a couple of years now.

                                    Why is that?

                                    I believe it was in response to a crash in San Francisco where the pilot lacked the critical skills to correct what was going on and everyone died in the crash.

                                    The FAA recommended it. I think this article touches on it.

                                    https://www.nbaa.org/ops/safety/20130125-faa-recommends-pilots-spend-more-time-hand-flying-their-aircraft.php

                                    So because pilots can't fly well enough, we'll use them more often? Great idea.

                                    Eh, I think that's a stretch. It's a skill that involves muscle memory. If you don't practice you lose some of your skill

                                    That's true...even with a simple simulator.

                                    I'm no pilot, but I practice with the runways at Area 51. With the HUGE runways I still screw up. It isn't easy!

                                    I do simulations on a fairly regular basis, done a carrier launch that was really cool.

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                                    • Son of Jor-ElS
                                      Son of Jor-El @coliver
                                      last edited by

                                      @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @Son-of-Jor-El said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      Could you imagine being a passenger on that plane? I already hate to fly.

                                      I actually don't have a problem with the general idea.

                                      and if the rumor I've heard is true,

                                      that most commercial flights today are auto pilot take off and land - oh and fly the course

                                      then no, I don't really have a problem with this.

                                      That's a rumor. More hand flying has been done for a couple of years now.

                                      Why is that?

                                      I believe it was in response to a crash in San Francisco where the pilot lacked the critical skills to correct what was going on and everyone died in the crash.

                                      The FAA recommended it. I think this article touches on it.

                                      https://www.nbaa.org/ops/safety/20130125-faa-recommends-pilots-spend-more-time-hand-flying-their-aircraft.php

                                      So because pilots can't fly well enough, we'll use them more often? Great idea.

                                      Eh, I think that's a stretch. It's a skill that involves muscle memory. If you don't practice you lose some of your skill

                                      That's true...even with a simple simulator.

                                      I'm no pilot, but I practice with the runways at Area 51. With the HUGE runways I still screw up. It isn't easy!

                                      I do simulations on a fairly regular basis, done a carrier launch that was really cool.

                                      Those are hard!! Landing.....ugh!!

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                                      • NerdyDadN
                                        NerdyDad @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        My dad trained as a pilot, but realized right when he was getting ready to get certified that he was afraid of heights and would black out if he looked out the windoes.

                                        I'm scared of heights too. Even as a passenger, I have problems. I have to talk myself into thinking that everything is okay.

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre @NerdyDad
                                          last edited by

                                          @NerdyDad said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          My dad trained as a pilot, but realized right when he was getting ready to get certified that he was afraid of heights and would black out if he looked out the windoes.

                                          I'm scared of heights too. Even as a passenger, I have problems. I have to talk myself into thinking that everything is okay.

                                          Then you see that one panic-stricken person sitting three rows up from you...

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            So glad that my kids think that flying is the most casual thing in the world. They fall asleep the moment that we head down the runway.

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