Free eBook: Open Source in Brazil
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@DustinB3403 said in Free eBook: Open Source in Brazil:
@aaronstuder It's difficult to sell software (or anything) when the bulk of the population is completely broke.
Brazil is not all that poor. Not super rich, but they are a massive economy and well within the range of buying software.
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@scottalanmiller Sure the business could buy software if they wanted too, but the general populace won't.
We've also had this conversation about middle eastern countries on SW. If there are no laws about pirating software, then the employees are actually encouraged to do so.
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@DustinB3403 said in Free eBook: Open Source in Brazil:
@scottalanmiller Sure the business could buy software if they wanted too, but the general populace won't.
We've also had this conversation about middle eastern countries on SW. If there are no laws about pirating software, then the employees are actually encouraged to do so.
What gives you the impression that piracy is legal in Brazil? There is no connection between Middle Eastern IP ethics and Brazil.
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@scottalanmiller said in Free eBook: Open Source in Brazil:
@DustinB3403 said in Free eBook: Open Source in Brazil:
@scottalanmiller Sure the business could buy software if they wanted too, but the general populace won't.
We've also had this conversation about middle eastern countries on SW. If there are no laws about pirating software, then the employees are actually encouraged to do so.
What gives you the impression that piracy is legal in Brazil? There is no connection between Middle Eastern IP ethics and Brazil.
It was a reference to a similar discussion we had a while back on SW.
And just because laws don't exist for a certain matter (such as piracy) doesn't mean it's legal or illegal to steal.
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And your point goes completely against the point of this thread - that open source is rising in Brazil. Why do you think open source is doing so well if piracy was so rampant or allowed? Sure, open source has merits, but if all software is free otherwise, it discourages investments in software of any kind. But that isn't happening, so that alone suggests nearly to the point of proof that piracy is not what you are suggesting in that market.
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@DustinB3403 said in Free eBook: Open Source in Brazil:
And just because laws don't exist for a certain matter (such as piracy) doesn't mean it's legal or illegal to steal.
That would be exactly what that means, actually, by definition.
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@DustinB3403 said in Free eBook: Open Source in Brazil:
It was a reference to a similar discussion we had a while back on SW.
Similar in what way? I don't see the connection to anything we discussed about piracy before. There is no connection between Brazil and countries where piracy is legal.
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@scottalanmiller you are missing the point. @aaronstuder said "no one pays for software in brazil" which can only be interpreted as "No one pays for software you're supposed to purchase". And this is what I was commenting about.
It can't be conflated to say "Everyone is using open source software"
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@scottalanmiller said in Free eBook: Open Source in Brazil:
@DustinB3403 said in Free eBook: Open Source in Brazil:
And just because laws don't exist for a certain matter (such as piracy) doesn't mean it's legal or illegal to steal.
That would be exactly what that means, actually, by definition.
What... no it doesn't. It just means no one in the country has decided to draft a law to protect the action of stealing software.
Or the action to protect intellectual property, and therefor chase down piracy.
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@DustinB3403 said in Free eBook: Open Source in Brazil:
@scottalanmiller you are missing the point. @aaronstuder said "no one pays for software in brazil" which can only be interpreted as "No one pays for software you're supposed to purchase". And this is what I was commenting about.
It can't be conflated to say "Everyone is using open source software"
I didn't suggest that it was. But his initial statement is false (and he said that he had only heard it.) Which you then followed up with statements that suggests Brazil had no laws against piracy and that that was the reason for the initial fact. Neither of which is true. Brazil certainly has IP protection laws (it's a banking country, you know) and their piracy issues are not all that bad. Not great, but not bad. On par for the region or better. And it isn't like piracy isn't rampant in the US where we know that the penalties can be enormous.
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@DustinB3403 said in Free eBook: Open Source in Brazil:
@scottalanmiller said in Free eBook: Open Source in Brazil:
@DustinB3403 said in Free eBook: Open Source in Brazil:
And just because laws don't exist for a certain matter (such as piracy) doesn't mean it's legal or illegal to steal.
That would be exactly what that means, actually, by definition.
What... no it doesn't. It just means no one in the country has decided to draft a law to protect the action of stealing software.
Or the action to protect intellectual property, and therefor chase down piracy.
Lacking a law saying it is illegal actually makes it legal, by definition. There aren't laws to legalize things, only laws to illegalize them.
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Brazil went above and beyond existing property laws to make piracy specifically illegal in 2003.
http://www.wipo.int/wipo_magazine/en/2006/05/article_0003.html
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Of course, Brazil lacks enforcement. But so does the US. Go to Chinatown in NYC and you'll see cops walking leisurely by giant DVD pirate shops that are openly and publicly pirating and selling movies. The cops literally look the other way. It's a thriving business in the US, just like you hear about the streets of any third world country. Zero efforts to stop piracy. It's so bad they don't even have to pretend it's not pirated or not doing it in plain site. Biggest city in the country, tables selling pirated goods right on the road side.
