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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill
      last edited by

      I used ssls.com to but a regular certificate and it was crazy cheap, $5.

      Their cheapest wildcard looks like it is $85.

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      • GreyG
        Grey @BRRABill
        last edited by

        @BRRABill said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

        I used ssls.com to but a regular certificate and it was crazy cheap, $5.

        Their cheapest wildcard looks like it is $85.

        Thanks. Sent this up the chain! Let's see how things go. 🍿

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @Grey
          last edited by

          @Grey said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

          @BRRABill said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

          I used ssls.com to but a regular certificate and it was crazy cheap, $5.

          Their cheapest wildcard looks like it is $85.

          Thanks. Sent this up the chain! Let's see how things go. 🍿

          I had absolutely no problems with them.

          In fact, I was pissed at myself I had been paying so damn much!

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          • GreyG
            Grey @BRRABill
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            @BRRABill said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

            @Grey said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

            @BRRABill said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

            I used ssls.com to but a regular certificate and it was crazy cheap, $5.

            Their cheapest wildcard looks like it is $85.

            Thanks. Sent this up the chain! Let's see how things go. 🍿

            I had absolutely no problems with them.

            In fact, I was pissed at myself I had been paying so damn much!

            That's a good way to describe my boss' face. He kept asking why there was such a price difference between this and Symantec's certs since that's what the org has been using for many, many years. That led to discussions of root auth and key length, but in the end I kinda just shrugged and said that the certs were no different.
            https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Pointy-Haired_Boss.jpg/130px-Pointy-Haired_Boss.jpg

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            • FATeknollogeeF
              FATeknollogee
              last edited by

              StartSSL.com "was" great for stuff like this till they went & messed it all up!

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1 @FATeknollogee
                last edited by

                @FATeknollogee said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                StartSSL.com "was" great for stuff like this till they went & messed it all up!

                And made it quite clear they didn't care that they messed it all up. That software developers will make mistakes is a given, that they quickly fix mistakes is what I want to see.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Grey
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                  @Grey said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                  @BRRABill said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                  @Grey said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                  @BRRABill said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                  I used ssls.com to but a regular certificate and it was crazy cheap, $5.

                  Their cheapest wildcard looks like it is $85.

                  Thanks. Sent this up the chain! Let's see how things go. 🍿

                  I had absolutely no problems with them.

                  In fact, I was pissed at myself I had been paying so damn much!

                  That's a good way to describe my boss' face. He kept asking why there was such a price difference between this and Symantec's certs since that's what the org has been using for many, many years. That led to discussions of root auth and key length, but in the end I kinda just shrugged and said that the certs were no different.
                  https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Pointy-Haired_Boss.jpg/130px-Pointy-Haired_Boss.jpg

                  Easy answer - all free and cheap products have an overpriced equivalent to take advantage of suckers. The very fact that people ask "well why does it cost so much" proves the value of simply overcharching to get their money.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Grey
                    last edited by

                    @Grey said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                    @BRRABill said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                    @Grey said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                    @BRRABill said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                    I used ssls.com to but a regular certificate and it was crazy cheap, $5.

                    Their cheapest wildcard looks like it is $85.

                    Thanks. Sent this up the chain! Let's see how things go. 🍿

                    I had absolutely no problems with them.

                    In fact, I was pissed at myself I had been paying so damn much!

                    That's a good way to describe my boss' face. He kept asking why there was such a price difference between this and Symantec's certs since that's what the org has been using for many, many years. That led to discussions of root auth and key length, but in the end I kinda just shrugged and said that the certs were no different.
                    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Pointy-Haired_Boss.jpg/130px-Pointy-Haired_Boss.jpg

                    Easy answer - all free and cheap products have an overpriced equivalent to take advantage of suckers. The very fact that people ask "well why does it cost so much" proves the value of simply overcharching to get their money. If the answer isn't obvious - because people want to spend a lot - then it's obvious why such a trick works.

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                    • black3dynamiteB
                      black3dynamite
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                      StartSSL
                      StartSSL™ Identity Validation is the cheapest one that offers wildcards.

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                      • travisdh1T
                        travisdh1 @black3dynamite
                        last edited by

                        @black3dynamite said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                        StartSSL
                        StartSSL™ Identity Validation is the cheapest one that offers wildcards.

                        They're a never use now tho, any new certificates they issue will not be accepted by any major web browser.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch
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                          StartCom is actually most likely still a decent service, but they were bought by WoSign who got in trouble for something or another. I do not recall the details of that.

                          Because a CA has to be completely trustworthy, and the WoSign purchase was secret, boom no more StartCom certs.

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                          • FATeknollogeeF
                            FATeknollogee
                            last edited by FATeknollogee

                            They got caught backdating certs & doing some other funky stuff.
                            https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2016/10/24/distrusting-new-wosign-and-startcom-certificates/
                            https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/10/heads_roll_as_qihoo_360_moves_to_end_wosign_startcom_certificate_row/

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @FATeknollogee
                              last edited by

                              @FATeknollogee said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                              They got caught backdating certs & doing some other funky stuff.
                              https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2016/10/24/distrusting-new-wosign-and-startcom-certificates/
                              https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/10/heads_roll_as_qihoo_360_moves_to_end_wosign_startcom_certificate_row/

                              To my understanding, it was WoSign that did this stuff, not StartCom. WoSign then secretly bought StartCom. That is the part that killed StartCom.

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                              • FATeknollogeeF
                                FATeknollogee
                                last edited by

                                ^ Yes, that is correct, not StartCom ^

                                Question is will StartCom (+ WoSign) ever recover since they have not yet claimed that they are dead or out of business!

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                  last edited by

                                  @FATeknollogee said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                                  ^ Yes, that is correct, not StartCom ^

                                  Question is will StartCom (+ WoSign) ever recover since they have not yet claimed that they are dead or out of business!

                                  Lenovo is doing well selling to people who can't remember the biggest news in IT security ever, even thought it is recent, and that is far worse. So I imagine that the average shop will just ignore the security problems here and keep giving them money.

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre
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                                    I was looking at a cell phone the other day and saw Lenovo. I closed the page and washed my eyes out with soapy water.

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                                    • FATeknollogeeF
                                      FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                                      Lenovo is doing well selling to people who can't remember the biggest news in IT security ever, even thought it is recent, and that is far worse. So I imagine that the average shop will just ignore the security problems here and keep giving them money.

                                      True, but the browser folks (Mozilla, Google, Apple & Msft) will have more influence on whether or not they stay alive.
                                      What can they do if no browser's will trust their certs?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                        last edited by

                                        @FATeknollogee said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                                        Lenovo is doing well selling to people who can't remember the biggest news in IT security ever, even thought it is recent, and that is far worse. So I imagine that the average shop will just ignore the security problems here and keep giving them money.

                                        True, but the browser folks (Mozilla, Google, Apple & Msft) will have more influence on whether or not they stay alive.
                                        What can they do if no browser's will trust their certs?

                                        Maybe, we will see.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by JaredBusch

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                                          @FATeknollogee said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                                          Lenovo is doing well selling to people who can't remember the biggest news in IT security ever, even thought it is recent, and that is far worse. So I imagine that the average shop will just ignore the security problems here and keep giving them money.

                                          True, but the browser folks (Mozilla, Google, Apple & Msft) will have more influence on whether or not they stay alive.
                                          What can they do if no browser's will trust their certs?

                                          Maybe, we will see.

                                          Only 2 browsers are not trusting them right now though. Here is the image I posted above.
                                          https://i.imgur.com/2wp70E6.png

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                                          • K
                                            Kait
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                                            Take a look at https://www.cheapsslshop.com/wildcard-ssl-certificates

                                            I have very good experience with them.

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