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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch said in panic button for IP phone:

      @scottalanmiller said in panic button for IP phone:

      @JaredBusch said in panic button for IP phone:

      This type of situation requires a SILENT event to happen in the room.

      Might be some distance away, wouldn't necessarily be audible in the patient room.

      No. When you push a speed dial on your phone , you immediately hear ringing locally on the speaker phone.

      OH! Yeah, that's a problem.

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      • KellyK
        Kelly
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        ARDUINO ALL THE THINGS!!!!

        http://www.instructables.com/id/Desk-Panic-Button/?ALLSTEPS

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        • Mike DavisM
          Mike Davis @Kelly
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          @Kelly said in panic button for IP phone:

          ARDUINO ALL THE THINGS!!!!

          http://www.instructables.com/id/Desk-Panic-Button/?ALLSTEPS

          That's a cool project, but not really practical for this job.

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          • Mike DavisM
            Mike Davis
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            Nortel has a feature they call "voicecall" where when you press voicecall and then dial an extension, it calls the other extension, beeps once, and immediately puts their phone on speaker phone. If a feature like this were available, that would work because the person on the other end of the line would immediately be able to hear what is going on in the room.

            As for the beep, I have heard rumors that the beep can be disabled. I have heard that car dealers disable the beep. Then when they leave you in their office to "talk to their manager" they go to the manager's office and then voicecall their phone. voila - they can now hear your conversation and if you were to search for a bug, you wouldn't find it because it's right in front of you.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @Mike Davis
              last edited by DustinB3403

              @Mike-Davis said in panic button for IP phone:

              Nortel has a feature they call "voicecall" where when you press voicecall and then dial an extension, it calls the other extension, beeps once, and immediately puts their phone on speaker phone. If a feature like this were available, that would work because the person on the other end of the line would immediately be able to hear what is going on in the room.

              As for the beep, I have heard rumors that the beep can be disabled. I have heard that car dealers disable the beep. Then when they leave you in their office to "talk to their manager" they go to the manager's office and then voicecall their phone. voila - they can now hear your conversation and if you were to search for a bug, you wouldn't find it because it's right in front of you.

              And this is illegal ("everywhere") this is the 1 party consent laws that have been discussed over and over.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in panic button for IP phone:

                @Mike-Davis said in panic button for IP phone:

                Nortel has a feature they call "voicecall" where when you press voicecall and then dial an extension, it calls the other extension, beeps once, and immediately puts their phone on speaker phone. If a feature like this were available, that would work because the person on the other end of the line would immediately be able to hear what is going on in the room.

                As for the beep, I have heard rumors that the beep can be disabled. I have heard that car dealers disable the beep. Then when they leave you in their office to "talk to their manager" they go to the manager's office and then voicecall their phone. voila - they can now hear your conversation and if you were to search for a bug, you wouldn't find it because it's right in front of you.

                And this is illegal ("everywhere") this is the 1 party consent laws that have been discussed over and over.

                That's for recording, not speaker phones.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in panic button for IP phone:

                  @DustinB3403 said in panic button for IP phone:

                  @Mike-Davis said in panic button for IP phone:

                  Nortel has a feature they call "voicecall" where when you press voicecall and then dial an extension, it calls the other extension, beeps once, and immediately puts their phone on speaker phone. If a feature like this were available, that would work because the person on the other end of the line would immediately be able to hear what is going on in the room.

                  As for the beep, I have heard rumors that the beep can be disabled. I have heard that car dealers disable the beep. Then when they leave you in their office to "talk to their manager" they go to the manager's office and then voicecall their phone. voila - they can now hear your conversation and if you were to search for a bug, you wouldn't find it because it's right in front of you.

                  And this is illegal ("everywhere") this is the 1 party consent laws that have been discussed over and over.

                  That's for recording, not speaker phones.

                  Consent laws still apply (invasion of privary)

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                    @DustinB3403 said in panic button for IP phone:

                    @scottalanmiller said in panic button for IP phone:

                    @DustinB3403 said in panic button for IP phone:

                    @Mike-Davis said in panic button for IP phone:

                    Nortel has a feature they call "voicecall" where when you press voicecall and then dial an extension, it calls the other extension, beeps once, and immediately puts their phone on speaker phone. If a feature like this were available, that would work because the person on the other end of the line would immediately be able to hear what is going on in the room.

                    As for the beep, I have heard rumors that the beep can be disabled. I have heard that car dealers disable the beep. Then when they leave you in their office to "talk to their manager" they go to the manager's office and then voicecall their phone. voila - they can now hear your conversation and if you were to search for a bug, you wouldn't find it because it's right in front of you.

                    And this is illegal ("everywhere") this is the 1 party consent laws that have been discussed over and over.

                    That's for recording, not speaker phones.

                    Consent laws still apply (invasion of privary)

                    Not sure they do...

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @Mike Davis
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                      @Mike-Davis said in panic button for IP phone:

                      Nortel has a feature they call "voicecall" where when you press voicecall and then dial an extension, it calls the other extension, beeps once, and immediately puts their phone on speaker phone. If a feature like this were available, that would work because the person on the other end of the line would immediately be able to hear what is going on in the room.

                      As for the beep, I have heard rumors that the beep can be disabled. I have heard that car dealers disable the beep. Then when they leave you in their office to "talk to their manager" they go to the manager's office and then voicecall their phone. voila - they can now hear your conversation and if you were to search for a bug, you wouldn't find it because it's right in front of you.

                      Mitel has something like this, but different.

                      You can have extensions set to auto answer - if you call it from anywhere internal, it just autoanswers. I think they do have a dial code to allow auto answer as well.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                        @DustinB3403 said in panic button for IP phone:

                        @scottalanmiller said in panic button for IP phone:

                        @DustinB3403 said in panic button for IP phone:

                        @Mike-Davis said in panic button for IP phone:

                        Nortel has a feature they call "voicecall" where when you press voicecall and then dial an extension, it calls the other extension, beeps once, and immediately puts their phone on speaker phone. If a feature like this were available, that would work because the person on the other end of the line would immediately be able to hear what is going on in the room.

                        As for the beep, I have heard rumors that the beep can be disabled. I have heard that car dealers disable the beep. Then when they leave you in their office to "talk to their manager" they go to the manager's office and then voicecall their phone. voila - they can now hear your conversation and if you were to search for a bug, you wouldn't find it because it's right in front of you.

                        And this is illegal ("everywhere") this is the 1 party consent laws that have been discussed over and over.

                        That's for recording, not speaker phones.

                        Consent laws still apply (invasion of privary)

                        I've not seen one that applies. Not aware of any. That means very little, but nothing we've been discussing relates at all. Recording and listening are totally different under the law. The listener is a full on member of the conversation and the consent is from any of several parties. Consent doesn't apply and the laws we discussed don't apply. Only notification applies and notification was only in the context of recording.

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                        • Mike DavisM
                          Mike Davis @DustinB3403
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                          In this case, if the PBX had a similar feature implemented the way Nortel does it (with the beep) I think that would still be an option to consider.

                          At the end of the day, I'm going to be sitting across from a few people that run the office and I'd like to give them a few options for a system that we can do with our phone system that their current system can't do.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
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                            What system are you pitching? Doesn't that system have a list of features?

                            Looking at the Mitel manual, there are dozens if not 100+ feature codes.
                            what's worse though - explaining the difference between ACD vs huntgroups and how they could be used.

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                            • Mike DavisM
                              Mike Davis @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender I'd be pitching what ever kind of PBX @Mike-Ralston wants to build and support and what ever kind of phones would work well for them.

                              The nortel system they are on is going end of life and I feel like the support costs would be lower going to a IP based PBX.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @Mike Davis
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                                @Mike-Davis said in panic button for IP phone:

                                @Dashrender I'd be pitching what ever kind of PBX @Mike-Ralston wants to build and support and what ever kind of phones would work well for them.

                                The nortel system they are on is going end of life and I feel like the support costs would be lower going to a IP based PBX.

                                I'm in a similar situation. My biggest issue is replacing all the old CAT 3 cable.

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                                • Mike DavisM
                                  Mike Davis @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said in panic button for IP phone:

                                  I'm in a similar situation. My biggest issue is replacing all the old CAT 3 cable.

                                  Since phones with gig switches built in are so cheap now, and every office has a CAT 5/5e/6 drop, this client would be fine.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @Mike Davis
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                                    @Mike-Davis said in panic button for IP phone:

                                    @Dashrender said in panic button for IP phone:

                                    I'm in a similar situation. My biggest issue is replacing all the old CAT 3 cable.

                                    Since phones with gig switches built in are so cheap now, and every office has a CAT 5/5e/6 drop, this client would be fine.

                                    Lucky you -

                                    And So cheap? When I looked at 1 Gb phones they were 20-40% more than 100 Mb phones.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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                                      @Mike-Davis said in panic button for IP phone:

                                      @Dashrender I'd be pitching what ever kind of PBX @Mike-Ralston wants to build and support and what ever kind of phones would work well for them.

                                      That'll be FreePBX.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in panic button for IP phone:

                                        @Mike-Davis said in panic button for IP phone:

                                        @Dashrender I'd be pitching what ever kind of PBX @Mike-Ralston wants to build and support and what ever kind of phones would work well for them.

                                        That'll be FreePBX.

                                        I assumed as much, but wanted to make sure.. so get a list of functions then compare to functions on old system.

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