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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      Bill, how did you come to that conclusion from that link?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        This leads right into a conspiracy theory I heard about a few years ago. From what I recall the bases was that the government (or simply those in power) wants to keep the masses uneducated, because an uneducated populous is easier to control and manipulate to your will.

        If you categorize common knowledge as conspiracy.

        Actually I've always heard it more that public education is designed to make factory workers.

        Webster was not a conspiracy. Just a guy who associated ignorance with nationalism.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said:

          Bill, how did you come to that conclusion from that link?

          No idea about the link but I was taught this in school.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            And I've actually taken a study of sociology of factory workers

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            • Bill KindleB
              Bill Kindle @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said:

              Bill, how did you come to that conclusion from that link?

              Talk to enough homeschoolers / opponents of Common Core and you will hear reference to it often. The way our education system was setup was to teach you what to think and not how to think. John Taylor Gatto's books detail what's wrong, from a teacher's perspective who actually quit the public school system in disgust.

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              • Bill KindleB
                Bill Kindle @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said:

                Bill, how did you come to that conclusion from that link?

                It was also about the "keeping the masses uneducated so they are easier to manipulate" statement that made me think about it.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
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                  Gotcha.. both of ya's.. 😛

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                  • DominicaD
                    Dominica @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    Canadians actually believe all Americans are illiterate. Thanks Noah.

                    This made me giggle. It also made me realize (realise) what a pain in the butt teaching spelling is going to be. "sigh* I'm aware of a lot of the common English vs. 'Merican spelling differences, but there are plenty that are under my spelldar. If we were planning to just live in the USA it would be one thing, but since we are planning to live all over the world, it matters.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dominica
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                      @Dominica It matters for any career, like IT, where one is exposed to people from other places and increasingly as we face the "world is flat" situation more and more careers are continuously exposed to people educated in places with stricter English rules than the US such as England, Ireland, Scotland (if the vote passes in a few weeks), Wales, India, Australia, Canada, Nigeria, Belize, Pakistan, Hong Kong and others. Any interaction with anyone from any of those places or anyone educated in any of those places puts 'Merican English writers at a disadvantage.

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                      • DominicaD
                        Dominica @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller Okay, okay. I'll stop whining and just teach both.

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                        • C
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                          American English is so common in the UK and Hong Kong that I sometimes use it myself over proper English. I doubt anyone would be at a disadvantage using American English in the UK, and definitely not in Hong Kong. Most of the people I work with can't spell anyway, so wouldn't even notice.

                          The fact is, American English is the standard language of the world. Even my kids use it as they watch so much American telly. I'm constantly having to tell my kids not to use the word 'lame' because it's so American.

                          It did annoy me slightly when a couple of people on Spiceworks suggested we should all start spelling virtualisation with a 'z' because that was the standard spelling though. Countries have gone to war over less!

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                          • Bill KindleB
                            Bill Kindle @Carnival Boy
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                            @Carnival-Boy said:

                            American English is so common in the UK and Hong Kong that I sometimes use it myself over proper English. I doubt anyone would be at a disadvantage using American English in the UK, and definitely not in Hong Kong. Most of the people I work with can't spell anyway, so wouldn't even notice.

                            The fact is, American English is the standard language of the world. Even my kids use it as they watch so much American telly. I'm constantly having to tell my kids not to use the word 'lame' because it's so American.

                            It did annoy me slightly when a couple of people on Spiceworks suggested we should all start spelling virtualisation with a 'z' because that was the standard spelling though. Countries have gone to war over less!

                            only recently has my spell check started suggesting "s" over "z". Phonetically it sounds different, at least to me.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Did you switch which spell check you were using?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                I am also on a mission to train myself to properly use the complete alphabet rather than just the 26 letters that they teach in elementary school in the US. Like ash æ and œ which are actually semi-common English letters.

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                                • Reid CooperR
                                  Reid Cooper @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller Examples?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    phœnix
                                    dæmon
                                    ævum (age at time of death)
                                    mediæval
                                    fœtus
                                    archæology
                                    æon
                                    æsthetic
                                    algæ
                                    anæsthesia
                                    Cæsar
                                    cæsium
                                    curriculum vitæ
                                    æra
                                    et cætera
                                    fæces
                                    færie
                                    formulæ
                                    hæmorrhage
                                    hæmorrhoid
                                    nebulæ
                                    pædiatrician
                                    Panacæa
                                    personæ
                                    præmium
                                    primæval
                                    supernovæ
                                    amœba
                                    apnœa
                                    diarrhœa
                                    œcology
                                    œconomics
                                    œsophagus
                                    fœderal
                                    hors d'œuvre
                                    manœuvre
                                    Œdipus
                                    tragœdy

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                                    • Bill KindleB
                                      Bill Kindle @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      Did you switch which spell check you were using?

                                      No, not that I'm aware of. I notice this more with SwiftKey on my tablet than I do with MS Word.

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