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    • ChrisLC
      ChrisL
      last edited by

      http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/nypd-windows-phone/

      Smartphones have made policing easier....but Windows Phone? That's criminal.

      The NYPD worked with Microsoft to develop apps specific for the phone/NYPD to help with paperwork, policies, remote management, etc.

      Do you think Windows Phone will run the route of Blackberry and become the "enterprise" mobile of choice?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        No, Windows phone isn't likely to do that, it's already a dead platform. BlackBerry got in early and built their reputation before iPhone and Android were around. Windows Phone is already on its way out, not on its way up. Microsoft has been actively phasing it out themselves (whether in mind share, apps, development, accessories, etc.) There will always be some IT manager with a personal agenda that will do something incredibly foolish to make deployments keep happening here and there. This is only news because the decision was so ridiculous, not because it shows Windows Phone adoption increasing. It actually shows the opposite, that adoption is so low now that a single police department choosing it is so absurd as to qualify as news.

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        • stacksofplatesS
          stacksofplates
          last edited by

          I doubt it. http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/30/11333378/microsoft-windows-phone-windows-mobile-plans

          "...there will be a time for it to be our focus, but right now it's part of the family but it's not the core of where I hope to generate developer interest over the next year"

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          • SamieWaltersS
            SamieWalters
            last edited by SamieWalters

            I think Windows is trying but they will try anything...

            Related but unrelated - apparently LAPD is now going to have Tesla Model S for their cars

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            • ChrisLC
              ChrisL @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

              No, Windows phone isn't likely to do that, it's already a dead platform. BlackBerry got in early and built their reputation before iPhone and Android were around. Windows Phone is already on its way out, not on its way up. Microsoft has been actively phasing it out themselves (whether in mind share, apps, development, accessories, etc.) There will always be some IT manager with a personal agenda that will do something incredibly foolish to make deployments keep happening here and there. This is only news because the decision was so ridiculous, not because it shows Windows Phone adoption increasing. It actually shows the opposite, that adoption is so low now that a single police department choosing it is so absurd as to qualify as news.

              Totally--that's why I was surprised to see this decision. I didn't know if MS was making a concerted effort at going after that market now that there was somewhat of a "hole" there.

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              • ChrisLC
                ChrisL @stacksofplates
                last edited by

                @stacksofplates said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                I doubt it. http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/30/11333378/microsoft-windows-phone-windows-mobile-plans

                "...there will be a time for it to be our focus, but right now it's part of the family but it's not the core of where I hope to generate developer interest over the next year"

                They really kinda hurt themselves by not aggressively going after app developers early on, and they got the reputation of "not having apps" on their platform.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @ChrisL
                  last edited by

                  @ChrisL said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                  @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                  No, Windows phone isn't likely to do that, it's already a dead platform. BlackBerry got in early and built their reputation before iPhone and Android were around. Windows Phone is already on its way out, not on its way up. Microsoft has been actively phasing it out themselves (whether in mind share, apps, development, accessories, etc.) There will always be some IT manager with a personal agenda that will do something incredibly foolish to make deployments keep happening here and there. This is only news because the decision was so ridiculous, not because it shows Windows Phone adoption increasing. It actually shows the opposite, that adoption is so low now that a single police department choosing it is so absurd as to qualify as news.

                  Totally--that's why I was surprised to see this decision. I didn't know if MS was making a concerted effort at going after that market now that there was somewhat of a "hole" there.

                  I bet this was not MS going after them.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @ChrisL
                    last edited by

                    @ChrisL said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                    @stacksofplates said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                    I doubt it. http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/30/11333378/microsoft-windows-phone-windows-mobile-plans

                    "...there will be a time for it to be our focus, but right now it's part of the family but it's not the core of where I hope to generate developer interest over the next year"

                    They really kinda hurt themselves by not aggressively going after app developers early on, and they got the reputation of "not having apps" on their platform.

                    They did go after developers, but they had nothing to offer them. Not having apps was bad, being loaded with scam apps and promoting them as the real apps and no usable app store, those were the killers that I saw. That and pointless or negative features being touted and nothing of value to users.

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                    • ChrisLC
                      ChrisL @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                      @ChrisL said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                      @stacksofplates said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                      I doubt it. http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/30/11333378/microsoft-windows-phone-windows-mobile-plans

                      "...there will be a time for it to be our focus, but right now it's part of the family but it's not the core of where I hope to generate developer interest over the next year"

                      They really kinda hurt themselves by not aggressively going after app developers early on, and they got the reputation of "not having apps" on their platform.

                      They did go after developers, but they had nothing to offer them. Not having apps was bad, being loaded with scam apps and promoting them as the real apps and no usable app store, those were the killers that I saw. That and pointless or negative features being touted and nothing of value to users.

                      "Do you love Instagram? Well, you'll love Instagram For Windows, made by BleepBloop Studios."

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @SamieWalters
                        last edited by

                        @SamieWalters said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                        I think Windows is trying but they will try anything...

                        Related but unrelated - apparently LAPD is now going to have Tesla Model S for their cars

                        Lucky police department. Even stripped down I bet those cars will be nice.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          @DustinB3403 said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                          @SamieWalters said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                          I think Windows is trying but they will try anything...

                          Related but unrelated - apparently LAPD is now going to have Tesla Model S for their cars

                          Lucky police department. Even stripped down I bet those cars will be nice.

                          Tesla are perfect for that. Big enough to haul lots of people, fast enough to catch anything.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by DustinB3403

                            @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                            @DustinB3403 said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                            @SamieWalters said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                            I think Windows is trying but they will try anything...

                            Related but unrelated - apparently LAPD is now going to have Tesla Model S for their cars

                            Lucky police department. Even stripped down I bet those cars will be nice.

                            Tesla are perfect for that. Big enough to haul lots of people, fast enough to catch anything.

                            Big enough to haul lots? What is your definition of "lots"

                            Most of the cars they sell are 4-5 people (2 front 3 elbow to elbow in the back) which is fine for police purposes (I don't disagree)

                            But it's not a bus hauling 52 people.

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                            • mlnewsM
                              mlnews @DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              @DustinB3403 said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                              @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                              @DustinB3403 said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                              @SamieWalters said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                              I think Windows is trying but they will try anything...

                              Related but unrelated - apparently LAPD is now going to have Tesla Model S for their cars

                              Lucky police department. Even stripped down I bet those cars will be nice.

                              Tesla are perfect for that. Big enough to haul lots of people, fast enough to catch anything.

                              Big enough to haul lots? What is your definition of "lots"

                              Most of the cars they sell are 4-5 people (2 front 3 elbow to elbow in the back) which is fine for police purposes (I don't disagree)

                              But it's not a bus hauling 52 people.

                              Tesla can do up to 7 in their sedan model. More than any police "car" on the market.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @mlnews
                                last edited by

                                @mlnews said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                @DustinB3403 said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                @DustinB3403 said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                @SamieWalters said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                I think Windows is trying but they will try anything...

                                Related but unrelated - apparently LAPD is now going to have Tesla Model S for their cars

                                Lucky police department. Even stripped down I bet those cars will be nice.

                                Tesla are perfect for that. Big enough to haul lots of people, fast enough to catch anything.

                                Big enough to haul lots? What is your definition of "lots"

                                Most of the cars they sell are 4-5 people (2 front 3 elbow to elbow in the back) which is fine for police purposes (I don't disagree)

                                But it's not a bus hauling 52 people.

                                Tesla can do up to 7 in their sedan model. More than any police "car" on the market.

                                I've not looked at the sedans (or much of the product line besides the show stoppers) but 7 people is a pretty large person count.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                  @mlnews said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                  @SamieWalters said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                  I think Windows is trying but they will try anything...

                                  Related but unrelated - apparently LAPD is now going to have Tesla Model S for their cars

                                  Lucky police department. Even stripped down I bet those cars will be nice.

                                  Tesla are perfect for that. Big enough to haul lots of people, fast enough to catch anything.

                                  Big enough to haul lots? What is your definition of "lots"

                                  Most of the cars they sell are 4-5 people (2 front 3 elbow to elbow in the back) which is fine for police purposes (I don't disagree)

                                  But it's not a bus hauling 52 people.

                                  Tesla can do up to 7 in their sedan model. More than any police "car" on the market.

                                  I've not looked at the sedans (or much of the product line besides the show stoppers) but 7 people is a pretty large person count.

                                  THey are a much bigger vehicle than you would imagine. They are enormous inside. It's really a 5+2 design, but it's so big.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    huh, 7 seats, all the quick pictures on Google show only kids in the very back seats. I suppose in a pinch, probably not really needed for a typical squad car though.

                                    Does that thing have a front based 'trunk' then?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                      huh, 7 seats, all the quick pictures on Google show only kids in the very back seats. I suppose in a pinch, probably not really needed for a typical squad car though.

                                      That's what a 5+2 means. 5 adults, 2 kids.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                        Does that thing have a front based 'trunk' then?

                                        Yes, and it is huge.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                          @Dashrender said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                          Does that thing have a front based 'trunk' then?

                                          Yes, and it is huge.

                                          So front end crash wipes out the onboard video storage. lol

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates @ChrisL
                                            last edited by

                                            @ChrisL said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                            @ChrisL said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                            @stacksofplates said in NYPD opts for Windows Phone over iOS and Android:

                                            I doubt it. http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/30/11333378/microsoft-windows-phone-windows-mobile-plans

                                            "...there will be a time for it to be our focus, but right now it's part of the family but it's not the core of where I hope to generate developer interest over the next year"

                                            They really kinda hurt themselves by not aggressively going after app developers early on, and they got the reputation of "not having apps" on their platform.

                                            They did go after developers, but they had nothing to offer them. Not having apps was bad, being loaded with scam apps and promoting them as the real apps and no usable app store, those were the killers that I saw. That and pointless or negative features being touted and nothing of value to users.

                                            "Do you love Instagram? Well, you'll love Instagram For Windows, made by BleepBloop Studios."

                                            Hey to be fair WP had Instagram. It was just perpetually in beta. I haven't looked but I wouldn't be surprised if it was still a beta.

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