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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @wrx7m
      last edited by

      @wrx7m said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

      @Dashrender OK - Good. That is what I thought. That is how it is setup currently.

      I guess, once you get beyond 2 CPU, is when you need extra licenses to cover the additional CPUs?

      Correct, each Standard License covers up to TWO VMs, on TWO CPUs.

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      • wrx7mW
        wrx7m
        last edited by

        OK. I was getting worried because that was my understanding and I am almost done filling out the MS audit spreadsheet. I haven't had more than 2 CPUs on any host, so that part hasn't applied to me. That is interesting (and annoyingly convoluted), though.

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        • J
          Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

          @Dashrender said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

          It really bends you mind when you think of an 8 processor chassis.
          In this case you would need 4 licenses to just be allowed to run two VMs, you would need 8 licenses to run four VMs, etc.

          Like an HPE Integrity.

          Cloud@Cost was running 8 CPU servers with VMware and windows I believe. All legally licensed I'm sure.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Jason
            last edited by

            @Jason said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

            @scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

            @Dashrender said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

            It really bends you mind when you think of an 8 processor chassis.
            In this case you would need 4 licenses to just be allowed to run two VMs, you would need 8 licenses to run four VMs, etc.

            Like an HPE Integrity.

            Cloud@Cost was running 8 CPU servers with VMware and windows I believe. All legally licensed I'm sure.

            They had no Windows. You couldn't even get Windows from them. You had to supply your own and had to license the entire cloud for a single VM that you might want to run.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Jason
              last edited by

              @Jason said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

              @scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

              @Dashrender said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

              It really bends you mind when you think of an 8 processor chassis.
              In this case you would need 4 licenses to just be allowed to run two VMs, you would need 8 licenses to run four VMs, etc.

              Like an HPE Integrity.

              Cloud@Cost was running 8 CPU servers with VMware and windows I believe. All legally licensed I'm sure.

              https://mangolassi.it/topic/4842/why-you-cannot-effectively-run-windows-on-cloudatcost

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                Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

                @Jason said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

                @scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

                @Dashrender said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

                It really bends you mind when you think of an 8 processor chassis.
                In this case you would need 4 licenses to just be allowed to run two VMs, you would need 8 licenses to run four VMs, etc.

                Like an HPE Integrity.

                Cloud@Cost was running 8 CPU servers with VMware and windows I believe. All legally licensed I'm sure.

                They had no Windows. You couldn't even get Windows from them. You had to supply your own and had to license the entire cloud for a single VM that you might want to run.

                They had it.. just not licensed haha.

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                • KOOLERK
                  KOOLER Vendor @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

                  @zuphzuph said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

                  Does anyone have a stupid simple breakdown of pricing? I'm still confuzzled on how this per core stuff works... Currently I work for an MS partner so this isn't something I've had to worry about for quite some time...

                  For Server 2016 Standard:

                  $882 for the minimum 16 cores means that the per core price is $55.13.

                  You are required to buy in 2-core packs. Each 2-core pack then should cost $110.26.

                  If you have a 2 proc x 10 core server, for 20 total cores, then you will buy 10 2-core packs for $110.26 * 10 = $1102.60.

                  It won't be easy to stay within basic Standard fee for pretty much ANY server in ±12 months from now. Reason: TOO MANY CORES!

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                  • brianlittlejohnB
                    brianlittlejohn
                    last edited by

                    I knew this was coming when I ordered my last servers, I didnt need alot of processing power, so I ordered a 1 socket 10core cpu. I believe it can be done with the base pricing.

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                    • CloudKnightC
                      CloudKnight
                      last edited by

                      They will be adding licences per NIC's next lol.....Don't agree with this per core licencing model, shitty move by Microsoft I think....

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @brianlittlejohn
                        last edited by

                        @brianlittlejohn said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

                        I knew this was coming when I ordered my last servers, I didnt need alot of processing power, so I ordered a 1 socket 10core cpu. I believe it can be done with the base pricing.

                        Yes, because minimum is
                        8 cores per proc ✔
                        16 cores per server ✔

                        You will be licensed for 6 more cores than you have.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @KOOLER
                          last edited by

                          @KOOLER said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

                          @JaredBusch said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

                          @zuphzuph said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

                          Does anyone have a stupid simple breakdown of pricing? I'm still confuzzled on how this per core stuff works... Currently I work for an MS partner so this isn't something I've had to worry about for quite some time...

                          For Server 2016 Standard:

                          $882 for the minimum 16 cores means that the per core price is $55.13.

                          You are required to buy in 2-core packs. Each 2-core pack then should cost $110.26.

                          If you have a 2 proc x 10 core server, for 20 total cores, then you will buy 10 2-core packs for $110.26 * 10 = $1102.60.

                          It won't be easy to stay within basic Standard fee for pretty much ANY server in ±12 months from now. Reason: TOO MANY CORES!

                          I'm pretty sure that all the server makers will make servers specifically to meet this need.... providing other features but limiting the cores to match the licensing limits.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @CloudKnight
                            last edited by

                            @StuartJordan said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

                            They will be adding licences per NIC's next lol.....Don't agree with this per core licencing model, shitty move by Microsoft I think....

                            It's really not as bad as it seams. They are pretty much just recognizing that sockets don't reflect what the original pricing model was based on.

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                            • CloudKnightC
                              CloudKnight @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller I can understand the pricing may be a little dated, they should of just increased the cost per socket a little more rather then implementing core based licencing. Oh well I wont rant too much about it, after all its the weekend 🙂

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                              • ardeynA
                                ardeyn @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                The new licensing looks like a nod from Microsoft towards Intel. This really makes the whole hyperthreading vs more cores concept tip the scales towards Intel.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @CloudKnight
                                  last edited by

                                  @StuartJordan said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

                                  @scottalanmiller I can understand the pricing may be a little dated, they should of just increased the cost per socket a little more rather then implementing core based licencing. Oh well I wont rant too much about it, after all its the weekend 🙂

                                  If they do that, they make it too expensive for small shops and too cheap for big ones. The current model helps the SMB market.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @ardeyn
                                    last edited by

                                    @ardeyn said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

                                    The new licensing looks like a nod from Microsoft towards Intel. This really makes the whole hyperthreading vs more cores concept tip the scales towards Intel.

                                    Yes, that's a huge deal. AMD is the big loser here.

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                                    • thwrT
                                      thwr
                                      last edited by thwr

                                      Just checking what I would need to license Windows Server 2016 Datacenter Edition

                                      As far as I can tell:

                                      • A minimum 16 ("physical") cores must be licensed per server
                                      • Hyper-Threading does not count towards the number of cores

                                      Just an example: In case I got two servers with dual hexa-core Xeons (2 * 2 * 6 = 24 cores total), I would have to buy licenses for 32 cores (or 16 two-core packages). Is that correct?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @thwr
                                        last edited by scottalanmiller

                                        @thwr said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

                                        Just checking what I would need to license Windows Server 2016 Datacenter Edition

                                        As far as I can tell:

                                        • A minimum 16 ("physical") cores must be licensed per server
                                        • Hyper-Threading does not count towards the number of cores

                                        Correct. 16 is the minimum and only cores are counted. Cores are physical things, logical thread engines are not.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @thwr
                                          last edited by JaredBusch

                                          @thwr said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

                                          Just checking what I would need to license Windows Server 2016 Datacenter Edition

                                          As far as I can tell:

                                          • A minimum 16 ("physical") cores must be licensed per server
                                          • Hyper-Threading does not count towards the number of cores

                                          Just an example: In case I got two servers with a dual hexacore Xeons (2 * 2 * 6 = 24 cores total), I would have to buy licenses for 32 cores (or 16 two-core packages). Is that correct?

                                          No, you can by a 24 core license. licensing is sold in packs of 2 cores with the minimum being 16 cores.

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                                          • thwrT
                                            thwr @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

                                            @thwr said in Windows Server 2016 Pricing:

                                            Just checking what I would need to license Windows Server 2016 Datacenter Edition

                                            As far as I can tell:

                                            • A minimum 16 ("physical") cores must be licensed per server
                                            • Hyper-Threading does not count towards the number of cores

                                            Just an example: In case I got two servers with a dual hexacore Xeons (2 * 2 * 6 = 24 cores total), I would have to buy licenses for 32 cores (or 16 two-core packages). Is that correct?

                                            Correct. 16 is the minimum and only cores are counted. Cores are physical things, logical thread engines are not.

                                            Great thanks. So I could also buy octa cores for the same result.

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