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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @coliver
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      @coliver said in Nextcloud doubts:

      The only real protection against cryptolocker-esque systems is a good backup.

      Oh, and that synced copy at the remote DC is not a backup in this case... It would just replicate the encrypted files over there too.

      Beat you could hope for would be versioning.

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      • coliverC
        coliver @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said in Nextcloud doubts:

        @coliver said in Nextcloud doubts:

        The only real protection against cryptolocker-esque systems is a good backup.

        Oh, and that synced copy at the remote DC is not a backup in this case... It would just replicate the encrypted files over there too.

        Beat you could hope for would be versioning.

        Versioning would help but it isn't really a backup.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @coliver
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          @coliver said in Nextcloud doubts:

          @Dashrender said in Nextcloud doubts:

          @coliver said in Nextcloud doubts:

          The only real protection against cryptolocker-esque systems is a good backup.

          Oh, and that synced copy at the remote DC is not a backup in this case... It would just replicate the encrypted files over there too.

          Beat you could hope for would be versioning.

          Versioning would help but it isn't really a backup.

          Of course not. 🙂

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          • AmbarishrhA
            Ambarishrh
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            So what could be the possible safe options? Ofcourse first step would be lock down workstations, proper end point protection etc but how can we make sure that using a second nextcloud doesnt really affect when the primary is affected or are there no options in this case?

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @Ambarishrh
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              @Ambarishrh said in Nextcloud doubts:

              One of my friends was looking for a self hosted storage solution and i suggested NextCloud.

              He had few doubts regarding that, I didn't get much time to check on this but thought of posting it here.

              What does the community/free edition lacks compared to the enterprise version. I didnt see a comparison list on the site. The guy wants to setup for a small office of 50 users, he want to add a local NextCloud server and another nextcloud in a dc to sync from the local.

              He also asked about ransomware risks.

              You can do all of the things your friend wants for file sharing.

              Crypto mitigation is not solved by any sync service. That comes to backups.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @Ambarishrh
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                @Ambarishrh said in Nextcloud doubts:

                So what could be the possible safe options? Ofcourse first step would be lock down workstations, proper end point protection etc but how can we make sure that using a second nextcloud doesnt really affect when the primary is affected or are there no options in this case?

                There are no options. It's the nature of syncing that makes this a problem.

                Real backs are completely different in that they are a snapshot in time, and that snapshot is unchangeable.

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                • AmbarishrhA
                  Ambarishrh
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                  Got it! What about the difference between the free and enterprise version of NextCloud? And I hope syncing between 2 NC servers are possible

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by Dashrender

                    The use of NextCloud at the remote datacenter is almost entirely about availability, if not completely about that.

                    If you can live with downtime if your local device has an issue or your internet is down. Then I'd skip the DC install. In any case, you need a backup solution for the NextCloud server.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver
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                      Support is the only difference that I am aware of. The Enterprise version includes support in the license whereas the Community version does not.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Ambarishrh
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                        @Ambarishrh said in Nextcloud doubts:

                        What does the community/free edition lacks compared to the enterprise version.

                        Nothing. Only support. There is only one product. 100% open source, that was one of the reasons that they split from ownCloud.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud doubts:

                          @Ambarishrh said in Nextcloud doubts:

                          What does the community/free edition lacks compared to the enterprise version.

                          Nothing. Only support. There is only one product. 100% open source, that was one of the reasons that they split from ownCloud.

                          So it's like RHEL 🙂

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud doubts:

                            @Ambarishrh said in Nextcloud doubts:

                            What does the community/free edition lacks compared to the enterprise version.

                            Nothing. Only support. There is only one product. 100% open source, that was one of the reasons that they split from ownCloud.

                            And I will be rightfully skeptical for a year or so, until they prove they can maintain this model.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Ambarishrh
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                              @Ambarishrh said in Nextcloud doubts:

                              He also asked about ransomware risks.

                              Depends how he sets it up. It has versioning and you back up the whole thing. You can use BtrFS and snap the system internally quickly and often.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @Ambarishrh
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                                @Ambarishrh said in Nextcloud doubts:

                                And I hope syncing between 2 NC servers are possible

                                This has been a feature of ownCloud for a few years. SO of course it was in the code at the fork to NextCloud

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Ambarishrh
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                                  @Ambarishrh said in Nextcloud doubts:

                                  So what could be the possible safe options? Ofcourse first step would be lock down workstations, proper end point protection etc but how can we make sure that using a second nextcloud doesnt really affect when the primary is affected or are there no options in this case?

                                  If they sync to each other, then one infects the other. That's how replication works.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said in Nextcloud doubts:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud doubts:

                                    @Ambarishrh said in Nextcloud doubts:

                                    What does the community/free edition lacks compared to the enterprise version.

                                    Nothing. Only support. There is only one product. 100% open source, that was one of the reasons that they split from ownCloud.

                                    So it's like RHEL 🙂

                                    Yes

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