Google Pixel Phone
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@scottalanmiller said in Google Pixel Phone:
@Kelly said in Google Pixel Phone:
@scottalanmiller said in Google Pixel Phone:
@Kelly said in Google Pixel Phone:
@Jason said in Google Pixel Phone:
@coliver said in Google Pixel Phone:
We're talking about the Pixel. The gap the Pixel filled was the same one that the Nexus tried to fill. A solid, stable, reference device that should compete directly with the iPhone but also to keep the other vendors on their toes and force them to differentiate the market.
Except the Pixel will be 1.) way more expensive. 2.) not vanilla android.
Exactly. This is a reduction in both competition and innovation rather than the reverse. They're offering an undifferentiated device at an undifferentiated price point and abandoning the reverse competitive position. This is what I do not understand.
They are adding options to the market, how does that reduce competition or innovation?
They are removing options from the market that were differentiated in both price and configuration, and replacing it with an option that is neither.
Do you mean removing the Nexus?
Aye
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Yup the nexus line is not going to be around anymore. All but the 6P and 5X will no longer be supported after this month. the 6P/5X has less than a year of support left.
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@scottalanmiller said in Google Pixel Phone:
As close to iPhone as you can get without technically being an iPhone.
In what way?
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@Carnival-Boy said in Google Pixel Phone:
@scottalanmiller said in Google Pixel Phone:
As close to iPhone as you can get without technically being an iPhone.
In what way?
Only in Design aesthetics.. In no way is it an iPhone more than the Msi Vortex is a Mac Pro.
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@Kelly said in Google Pixel Phone:
@scottalanmiller said in Google Pixel Phone:
@Kelly said in Google Pixel Phone:
@scottalanmiller said in Google Pixel Phone:
@Kelly said in Google Pixel Phone:
@Jason said in Google Pixel Phone:
@coliver said in Google Pixel Phone:
We're talking about the Pixel. The gap the Pixel filled was the same one that the Nexus tried to fill. A solid, stable, reference device that should compete directly with the iPhone but also to keep the other vendors on their toes and force them to differentiate the market.
Except the Pixel will be 1.) way more expensive. 2.) not vanilla android.
Exactly. This is a reduction in both competition and innovation rather than the reverse. They're offering an undifferentiated device at an undifferentiated price point and abandoning the reverse competitive position. This is what I do not understand.
They are adding options to the market, how does that reduce competition or innovation?
They are removing options from the market that were differentiated in both price and configuration, and replacing it with an option that is neither.
Do you mean removing the Nexus?
Aye
I'm not familiar enough. What did it do differently than the Pixel? More of a vanilla experience? Is no one offering that now.
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@Jason said in Google Pixel Phone:
@Carnival-Boy said in Google Pixel Phone:
@scottalanmiller said in Google Pixel Phone:
As close to iPhone as you can get without technically being an iPhone.
In what way?
Only in Design aesthetics.. In no way is it an iPhone more than the Msi Vortex is a Mac Pro.
Oh, right. You mean physical design? Who cares what it looks like? Phones all look pretty much the same anyway, don't they?
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@Carnival-Boy said in Google Pixel Phone:
@Jason said in Google Pixel Phone:
@Carnival-Boy said in Google Pixel Phone:
@scottalanmiller said in Google Pixel Phone:
As close to iPhone as you can get without technically being an iPhone.
In what way?
Only in Design aesthetics.. In no way is it an iPhone more than the Msi Vortex is a Mac Pro.
Oh, right. You mean physical design? Who cares what it looks like? Phones all look pretty much the same anyway, don't they?
Pretty much.
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@scottalanmiller said in Google Pixel Phone:
@Kelly said in Google Pixel Phone:
@scottalanmiller said in Google Pixel Phone:
@Kelly said in Google Pixel Phone:
@scottalanmiller said in Google Pixel Phone:
@Kelly said in Google Pixel Phone:
@Jason said in Google Pixel Phone:
@coliver said in Google Pixel Phone:
We're talking about the Pixel. The gap the Pixel filled was the same one that the Nexus tried to fill. A solid, stable, reference device that should compete directly with the iPhone but also to keep the other vendors on their toes and force them to differentiate the market.
Except the Pixel will be 1.) way more expensive. 2.) not vanilla android.
Exactly. This is a reduction in both competition and innovation rather than the reverse. They're offering an undifferentiated device at an undifferentiated price point and abandoning the reverse competitive position. This is what I do not understand.
They are adding options to the market, how does that reduce competition or innovation?
They are removing options from the market that were differentiated in both price and configuration, and replacing it with an option that is neither.
Do you mean removing the Nexus?
Aye
I'm not familiar enough. What did it do differently than the Pixel? More of a vanilla experience? Is no one offering that now.
The Nexus line was stock Android. Nothing was added beyond the base open source OS. Pixel...isn't. They aren't being totally clear what the differences are, but here is a relevant quote: "The Nexus devices have been the purest form of Android in the past. Pixel is the purest form of Google, which is Android plus a whole lot of other stuff like the Assistant, our VR platform and so on." - Hiroshi Lockheimer, SVP Android, Chrome OS & Play at Googles (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-04/this-man-is-explaining-google-s-hardware-bet-to-android-partners)
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The Nexus line was originally for developers to be able to work with vanilla Android. Then people realized how much nicer it was than what the carriers and Samsung were jamming on the phones. Sad that they are dropping it.
Another big reason was to provide a great phone at a reasonable price. My 32 GB Nexus 5 was $400. The 16 GB was $350.
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@Jason said in Google Pixel Phone:
I just bought the Nexus 6P.. I think I'm returning it and going back to my iPhone 6. Mostly because of the Bluetooth issues and with the Pixel coming out it's confirmed google will abandon and stop supporting the nexus line. Sad espcially since I like vanillia android and the openness compared to iOS but at least things work on iOS..
Thata ridiculous. I love my 5 and I know others on here do also. It was probably the best Nexus of all. I was sad to hear they were dropping support and monthly updates but to abandon a one year old phone is ridiculous.
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I complained to an Amazon Rep cause I just bough the Nexus 6P and went through all the trouble of setting it up etc only to here it was going to be no longer supported a week later.. (I keep my phones for a long time). Anyway I got them to agree to send me an unlocked iPhone 6s Plus refurbished at no additional cost in exchange for this one.. granted I spend a but load of $$$ on amazon..
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@Jason said in Google Pixel Phone:
I complained to an Amazon Rep cause I just bough the Nexus 6P and went through all the trouble of setting it up etc only to here it was going to be no longer supported a week later.. (I keep my phones for a long time). Anyway I got them to agree to send me an unlocked iPhone 6s Plus refurbished at no additional cost in exchange for this one.. granted I spend a but load of $$$ on amazon..
I buy almost everything through them for those reasons.
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@Jason said in Google Pixel Phone:
I complained to an Amazon Rep cause I just bough the Nexus 6P and went through all the trouble of setting it up etc only to here it was going to be no longer supported a week later.. (I keep my phones for a long time). Anyway I got them to agree to send me an unlocked iPhone 6s Plus refurbished at no additional cost in exchange for this one.. granted I spend a but load of $$$ on amazon..
No longer supported - HA. They are dropping support Sept of next year. This is totally inline with Google's typical support Window. The 6P will probably see the O version of Android and after that it will be done. But compare this to most Android phone makers, you're lucky if you get one OS update, let alone two over the life of a device.
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@Dashrender said in Google Pixel Phone:
@Jason said in Google Pixel Phone:
I complained to an Amazon Rep cause I just bough the Nexus 6P and went through all the trouble of setting it up etc only to here it was going to be no longer supported a week later.. (I keep my phones for a long time). Anyway I got them to agree to send me an unlocked iPhone 6s Plus refurbished at no additional cost in exchange for this one.. granted I spend a but load of $$$ on amazon..
No longer supported - HA. They are dropping support Sept of next year. This is totally inline with Google's typical support Window. The 6P will probably see the O version of Android and after that it will be done. But compare this to most Android phone makers, you're lucky if you get one OS update, let alone two over the life of a device.
Even then, it's entirely carrier dependent for a lot of people.
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@nadnerB said in Google Pixel Phone:
@Dashrender said in Google Pixel Phone:
@Jason said in Google Pixel Phone:
I complained to an Amazon Rep cause I just bough the Nexus 6P and went through all the trouble of setting it up etc only to here it was going to be no longer supported a week later.. (I keep my phones for a long time). Anyway I got them to agree to send me an unlocked iPhone 6s Plus refurbished at no additional cost in exchange for this one.. granted I spend a but load of $$$ on amazon..
No longer supported - HA. They are dropping support Sept of next year. This is totally inline with Google's typical support Window. The 6P will probably see the O version of Android and after that it will be done. But compare this to most Android phone makers, you're lucky if you get one OS update, let alone two over the life of a device.
Even then, it's entirely carrier dependent for a lot of people.
You mean for damn near everyone except iPhone users.
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so disappointed in this release.
I'll be moving away from Nexus and going with another manufacturer now...Google have completely gone against what they set out to do with the original Nexus phone and it's shitty and annoying.
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@Dashrender said in Google Pixel Phone:
@Jason said in Google Pixel Phone:
I complained to an Amazon Rep cause I just bough the Nexus 6P and went through all the trouble of setting it up etc only to here it was going to be no longer supported a week later.. (I keep my phones for a long time). Anyway I got them to agree to send me an unlocked iPhone 6s Plus refurbished at no additional cost in exchange for this one.. granted I spend a but load of $$$ on amazon..
No longer supported - HA. They are dropping support Sept of next year. This is totally inline with Google's typical support Window. The 6P will probably see the O version of Android and after that it will be done. But compare this to most Android phone makers, you're lucky if you get one OS update, let alone two over the life of a device.
They are only doing security updates. The Nexus devices are not supported and will not see any bug fixes or Android OS versions. They still haven't fixed the bluetooth issues with the 6P.
We aren't comparing them to others though, we don't care about those. That's one of the reasons we wanted vanilla.
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I saw my first Phone made by Google commercial last night. I don't recall seeing it called a Pixel at all.
I don't recall ever seeing or hearing that Google had Nexus ads, but then again I'm not surprised, the Nexus was always touted as a developer's phone.
It's clear to me that Google plans to try to sell a lot of Pixel phones. Now I wonder how long until we see them in big box stores?
