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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by

      @wirestyle22
      Things to do.
      Replace the core switch with 1 GB or better
      Fix DHCP so it gives out two DNS hosts
      Make sure both (or more) DNS servers are working/syncing

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

        @Dashrender said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

        I miss 90% of the stuff that's written on the weekends.

        That's the one time I normally keep up best.

        Less normal daily work I'm guessing for you. I'm just not on the computer or phone much on the weekends.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
          last edited by

          So what was the status of this from yesterday?

          • IPOD
          • VM Restored and powers on
          • Still having DNS/DHCP issues?
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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

            @wirestyle22
            Things to do.
            Replace the core switch with 1 GB or better
            Fix DHCP so it gives out two DNS hosts
            Make sure both (or more) DNS servers are working/syncing

            Document everything.
            Replace the SAN.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

              @Dashrender said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

              @wirestyle22
              Things to do.
              Replace the core switch with 1 GB or better
              Fix DHCP so it gives out two DNS hosts
              Make sure both (or more) DNS servers are working/syncing

              Document everything.
              Replace the SAN.

              Replace, or re-engineer the storage?

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                @Dashrender said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                @wirestyle22
                Things to do.
                Replace the core switch with 1 GB or better
                Fix DHCP so it gives out two DNS hosts
                Make sure both (or more) DNS servers are working/syncing

                Document everything.
                Replace Remove the SAN.

                FTFY

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                  last edited by JaredBusch

                  @DustinB3403 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                  Replace Remove the SAN.

                  No, that is not the correct solution.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    @Dashrender said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    @wirestyle22
                    Things to do.
                    Replace the core switch with 1 GB or better
                    Fix DHCP so it gives out two DNS hosts
                    Make sure both (or more) DNS servers are working/syncing

                    Document everything.
                    Replace the SAN.

                    Replace, or re-engineer the storage?

                    Well the issue with that is that it's a major change. That's a great idea, but it's a major change and one he is not prepared to do. Replacing the SAN is a drop in replacement and he could move from a device that isn't plausible to use in a scenario like this to one that is. It's a huge amount of money, but that's a spend that they committed to before he was there. Moving to an HDS, EMC, 3PAR or Nimble is a drop in change that would fix a lot of things.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                      ... but that's a spend that they committed to before he was there.

                      it's a plan that the previous IT was committed to. Management only because they were probably sold a bill of goods because they put their trust in the wrong person. But we don't actually know any of those details.

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                      • hobbit666H
                        hobbit666 @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        Moving to an HDS, EMC, 3PAR or Nimble is a drop in change that would fix a lot of things.

                        I'm interested in hearing why these would make a good alternative to the SAN and IPOD?

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                        • prcssupportP
                          prcssupport @hobbit666
                          last edited by prcssupport

                          @hobbit666 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          Moving to an HDS, EMC, 3PAR or Nimble is a drop in change that would fix a lot of things.

                          I'm interested in hearing why these would make a good alternative to the SAN and IPOD?

                          I have read this entire thread (albeit over a lot of time) I don't know the piece of equipment "IPOD" as it is referenced in this thread. I figure it is not an Apple device. Could someone clarify? 😊

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @prcssupport
                            last edited by DustinB3403

                            @prcssupport said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                            @hobbit666 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                            @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                            Moving to an HDS, EMC, 3PAR or Nimble is a drop in change that would fix a lot of things.

                            I'm interested in hearing why these would make a good alternative to the SAN and IPOD?

                            I have read this entire thread (albeit over a lot of time) I don't know the piece of equipment "IPOD" as it is referenced in this thread. I figure it is not an Apple device. Could someone clarify? 😊

                            An IPOD is an architectural system design. Where you have 1 storage node (usually a SAN) and two servers. The entire setup is configured so that the servers sit up at the top, with no storage capabilities, and the SAN at the bottom.

                            Often the two servers are connected together with two switches and then the servers are connected to the single SAN.

                            The term IPOD means Inverted Pyramid of Doom, the term refers to the fact that if the connection to the SAN or the SAN its self goes belly up, you lose all functionality of the system.

                            It's a commonly sold design because it has huge profit margins, two compute only servers, the switches, and the SAN.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @prcssupport
                              last edited by

                              @prcssupport said

                              I have read this entire thread (albeit over a lot of time) I don't know the piece of equipment "IPOD" as it is referenced in this thread. I figure it is not an Apple device. Could someone clarify? 😊

                              http://www.smbitjournal.com/2013/06/the-inverted-pyramid-of-doom/

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                              • dafyreD
                                dafyre @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @Dashrender said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @Dashrender said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @wirestyle22
                                Things to do.
                                Replace the core switch with 1 GB or better
                                Fix DHCP so it gives out two DNS hosts
                                Make sure both (or more) DNS servers are working/syncing

                                Document everything.
                                Replace the SAN.

                                Replace, or re-engineer the storage?

                                Well the issue with that is that it's a major change. That's a great idea, but it's a major change and one he is not prepared to do. Replacing the SAN is a drop in replacement and he could move from a device that isn't plausible to use in a scenario like this to one that is. It's a huge amount of money, but that's a spend that they committed to before he was there. Moving to an HDS, EMC, 3PAR or Nimble is a drop in change that would fix a lot of things.

                                If he can't get away from a SAN architecture, I'd highly recommend the Nimble storage units. We have them here, and they rock, big time!

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @hobbit666
                                  last edited by

                                  @hobbit666 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  Moving to an HDS, EMC, 3PAR or Nimble is a drop in change that would fix a lot of things.

                                  I'm interested in hearing why these would make a good alternative to the SAN and IPOD?

                                  They aren't an alternative for SAN, they are SANs. The thinking here is that architecturally there would be very little work to install a SAN from one of those vendors (these are known good SANs) into his current setup.

                                  The best solution considering what we know about @wirestyle22 environment would be for him to migrate away from VMWare (cost reasons) to XenServer or Hyper-V (both include vMotion/storage vMotion for free) with local storage. Sadly his Cisco servers apparently aren't a good choice when considering local internal storage, so moving to new servers would probably be advised.

                                  I would consider contacting xByte specing out two newer'ish servers with enough local storage Install XS or Hyper-V and migrate.

                                  The major concern I've heard in doing this is that since @wirestyle22 works for medical, his medical software vendor might not support XS or Hyper-V. If this is important to him, then he could stay with ESXi on the new host servers with local storage.

                                  But damn.. He definitely needs to replace that 100 Mb switch he has at the core of the network.

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                    But damn.. He definitely needs to replace that 100 Mb switch he has at the core of the network.

                                    This is probably the first thing he should do. Falls way below the home line and would be an inexpensive upgrade to gigabit.

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                                    • travisdh1T
                                      travisdh1 @coliver
                                      last edited by

                                      @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                      @Dashrender said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                      But damn.. He definitely needs to replace that 100 Mb switch he has at the core of the network.

                                      This is probably the first thing he should do. Falls way below the home line and would be an inexpensive upgrade to gigabit.

                                      Maybe even go direct connect if possible, I forget the model of Synology he said is in place and am buried in weekend logs at the moment.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @coliver
                                        last edited by

                                        @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @Dashrender said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        But damn.. He definitely needs to replace that 100 Mb switch he has at the core of the network.

                                        This is probably the first thing he should do. Falls way below the home line and would be an inexpensive upgrade to gigabit.

                                        Well, that depends - I don't consider $3500 inexpensive when looking at the VMWare recommended Brocade switch. If he dumps the SAN he might be able to go with something less expensive and be in a good supported/recommended setup.

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                          @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                          @Dashrender said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                          But damn.. He definitely needs to replace that 100 Mb switch he has at the core of the network.

                                          This is probably the first thing he should do. Falls way below the home line and would be an inexpensive upgrade to gigabit.

                                          Well, that depends - I don't consider $3500 inexpensive when looking at the VMWare recommended Brocade switch. If he dumps the SAN he might be able to go with something less expensive and be in a good supported/recommended setup.

                                          Was his SAN doing Fibrechannel or iSCSI?

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @travisdh1
                                            last edited by

                                            @travisdh1 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                            @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                            @Dashrender said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                            But damn.. He definitely needs to replace that 100 Mb switch he has at the core of the network.

                                            This is probably the first thing he should do. Falls way below the home line and would be an inexpensive upgrade to gigabit.

                                            Maybe even go direct connect if possible, I forget the model of Synology he said is in place and am buried in weekend logs at the moment.

                                            Assuming the Synology has multiple NICs, that could work.

                                            The fact that his storage traffic is on the same switch as his network traffic, frankly I'm amazed it's even usable at 100 Mb.

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