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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @dafyre
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      @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

      It seems I heard about a bug in Hyper-V under certain circumstances this would happen... I can't remember where I heard it from though.

      Ouch, that is one scary bug. People get WAY too callous about vmotioning servers. They treat it like a guaranteed safe operation. But in reality it's like a RAID 5 resilver... the chances of failure are still pretty high.

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller Yeah. I've done a number of live migrations, and have seen random failures, but never actually completely lost a VM like that.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @dafyre
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          @dafyre said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

          @scottalanmiller Yeah. I've done a number of live migrations, and have seen random failures, but never actually completely lost a VM like that.

          True, this is even more dramatic than I have seen before.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
            last edited by DustinB3403

            I'm sure this has been discussed before, but don't store user passwords, don't request them, don't mandate users tell them, and don't set them to something and never allow them to be changed.

            If as a domain administrator you need to get into a user profile to "have access" use your administrative credentials.

            Passwords.

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            • RojoLocoR
              RojoLoco @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

              I'm sure this has been discussed before, but don't store user passwords, don't request them, don't mandate users tell them, and don't set them to something and never allow them to be changed.

              If as a domain administrator you need to get into a user profile to "have access" use your administrative credentials.

              Passwords.

              That thread makes me think that after all is said and done, bad management + spineless IT guy = they will keep on having that master list of passwords.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @RojoLoco
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                @RojoLoco Yeah I figure as much, which this will just open a "he said she said" issue if something with legal ramifications occurs.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  Um... why is this a question again? Decision: To stay physical or move to vitual

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
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                    I had a client that maintained a password list for every employee once. I showed the boss how this was completely unnecessary, she didn't change.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      That question reminds me of a post yesterday or so about a PCI auditor claiming to need that same info... WTF?

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                      • RojoLocoR
                        RojoLoco @DustinB3403
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                        @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                        Um... why is this a question again? Decision: To stay physical or move to vitual

                        Posts like that make me think SW makes their staff create puppet accounts to post such nonsense so they will have something to feature, because apparently they have been scrambling for feature worthy posts lately.

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                        • brianlittlejohnB
                          brianlittlejohn
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                          I like the first line of the post... "I didn't find much searching..." I call BS... lol

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
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                            @brianlittlejohn said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                            I like the first line of the post... "I didn't find much searching..." I call BS... lol

                            LOL. There is a lot of that.

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @brianlittlejohn
                              last edited by

                              @brianlittlejohn said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                              I like the first line of the post... "I didn't find much searching..." I call BS... lol

                              If they only tried the search available on the site rather than a Google site search, I might not outright laugh at them, only on the inside.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                I had a client that maintained a password list for every employee once. I showed the boss how this was completely unnecessary, she didn't change.

                                At my last position they wouldn't let me enforce password complexity because there was a password list the managers wanted to keep to.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403
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                                  Keeping systems and data around for extremely long periods of time leads to major issues. Like having to keep all records available..

                                  "As long as records are retained, they are legally discoverable, regardless whether their retention period has expired." - from the American Bar Association.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by Dashrender

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                    Keeping systems and data around for extremely long periods of time leads to major issues. Like having to keep all records available..

                                    "As long as records are retained, they are legally discoverable, regardless whether their retention period has expired." - from the American Bar Association.

                                    yeah, people just don't get that until they get burned by it. We have people who have email that goes back 20 years... it's just crazy to me.

                                    But when my boss goes and digs out some email from 5+ years ago.. she loves to come and say.. See I needed this thing from 5+ years ago, it's a good thing I kept it.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                      Keeping systems and data around for extremely long periods of time leads to major issues. Like having to keep all records available..

                                      "As long as records are retained, they are legally discoverable, regardless whether their retention period has expired." - from the American Bar Association.

                                      yeah, people just don't get that until they get burned by it. We have people who have email that goes back 20 years... it's just crazy to me.

                                      But when my boss goes and digs out some email from 5+ years ago.. she loves to come and say.. See I needed this thing from 5+ years ago, it's a good thing I kept it.

                                      Exactly, but the thing that immediately comes in in court is "oh hey you have evidence that shows favor in this light etc, give us everything from then?"

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                        But when my boss goes and digs out some email from 5+ years ago.. she loves to come and say.. See I needed this thing from 5+ years ago, it's a good thing I kept it.

                                        And you should properly respond "We got lucky that no one did a legal discovery, too." Remind her, every time, that she's "gotten lucky" from being risky. It's not just that keeping data makes you vulnerable, it also means that you HAVE to keep all data. You can't pick and choose what gets kept. It's all or nothing.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                          @Dashrender said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:

                                          Keeping systems and data around for extremely long periods of time leads to major issues. Like having to keep all records available..

                                          "As long as records are retained, they are legally discoverable, regardless whether their retention period has expired." - from the American Bar Association.

                                          yeah, people just don't get that until they get burned by it. We have people who have email that goes back 20 years... it's just crazy to me.

                                          But when my boss goes and digs out some email from 5+ years ago.. she loves to come and say.. See I needed this thing from 5+ years ago, it's a good thing I kept it.

                                          Exactly, but the thing that immediately comes in in court is "oh hey you have evidence that shows favor in this light etc, give us everything from then?"

                                          ANd it has to be EVERYTHING from then. If only some of it is kept, you are the one in trouble to come up with it.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @scottalanmiller
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                                            Ran a blade, no backups.

                                            And then instead of learning from his mistakes, starts making more.

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