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    Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive

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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      So diesel, or overhead electric cables. . .

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
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        Which means, you have a very finite amount of fuel before your stuck (somewhere) hopefully with fewer zombies than from where you came.

        But presumably the zombies would just follow you for as long as there are tracks..

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

          How are modern trains powered?

          Most are diesel generators powering electric drives. Essentially anything that isn't steam powered is electric under the hood. They are just rolling power plants. SO all kinds of electric power.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

            So diesel, or overhead electric cables. . .

            Those are the two options. Overhead electric is mostly just NYC.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

              But presumably the zombies would just follow you for as long as there are tracks..

              Not Walking Dead zombies. They dont understand tracks nor do they follow once the site and sound goes away.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
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                How much fuel do trains usually carry, how far could they go without refueling.

                What is the shelf life on diesel?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                  Which means, you have a very finite amount of fuel before your stuck (somewhere) hopefully with fewer zombies than from where you came.

                  It's a very, very long way. Trains are very fuel efficient and carry and insane amount of fuel and are designed to go anywhere without refueling with huge loads, you'd not take a big load, just a really light one at really efficient speeds so the fuel would easily last ten times as long as normal. And fuel for trains is along the tracks, so generally easy to get to.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                    But presumably the zombies would just follow you for as long as there are tracks..

                    Not Walking Dead zombies. They dont understand tracks nor do they follow once the site and sound goes away.

                    This is true, but zombies do just roam....

                    I would guess that they'd just roam forwards along the easy path.

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                    • MattSpellerM
                      MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                      I would imagine that if a group could block the tracks, that they'd essentially would've won the battle. Besides against the zombies.

                      If you block it with people, you're toast. If you block it with cars, you need a lot of them. A LOT of them. If you block it with buidings and stuff, the train can see it from a long way away. It's very, very hard to surprise a train because of long, straight tracks.

                      Trains have derailed for way less than a car on the tracks. I do not think this is a promising solution.

                      Sailboat is my vote for long long term.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                        @DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                        What is the shelf life on diesel?

                        It's like gasoline, it would last for decades or centuries.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                          @MattSpeller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                          Trains have derailed for way less than a car on the tracks. I do not think this is a promising solution.

                          Only fast ones that don't apply here. Slow ones can move nearly anything without derailing.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                            This is true, but zombies do just roam....

                            I would guess that they'd just roam forwards along the easy path.

                            Which would not be tracks, those are actually hard to follow because of the ties.

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                            • MattSpellerM
                              MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                              @DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                              What is the shelf life on diesel?

                              It's like gasoline, it would last for decades or centuries.

                              Modern gasoline with ethanol won't last 6 months.

                              Diesel shelf life 1 year

                              http://www.bp.com/content/dam/bp-country/en_au/media/fuel-news/long-term-storage-diesel.pdf

                              edit: longer with regular maintenance in large underground storage.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                                @MattSpeller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                What is the shelf life on diesel?

                                It's like gasoline, it would last for decades or centuries.

                                Modern gasoline with ethanol won't last 6 months.

                                Diesel shelf life 1 year

                                http://www.bp.com/content/dam/bp-country/en_au/media/fuel-news/long-term-storage-diesel.pdf

                                edit: longer with regular maintenance in large underground storage.

                                Weird, my car has no problems going longer than that.

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                                • MattSpellerM
                                  MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                  @MattSpeller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                  What is the shelf life on diesel?

                                  It's like gasoline, it would last for decades or centuries.

                                  Modern gasoline with ethanol won't last 6 months.

                                  Diesel shelf life 1 year

                                  http://www.bp.com/content/dam/bp-country/en_au/media/fuel-news/long-term-storage-diesel.pdf

                                  edit: longer with regular maintenance in large underground storage.

                                  Weird, my car has no problems going longer than that.

                                  Change your fuel filter soon heheh

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                                  • tonyshowoffT
                                    tonyshowoff @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                    @MattSpeller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                    What is the shelf life on diesel?

                                    It's like gasoline, it would last for decades or centuries.

                                    Modern gasoline with ethanol won't last 6 months.

                                    Diesel shelf life 1 year

                                    http://www.bp.com/content/dam/bp-country/en_au/media/fuel-news/long-term-storage-diesel.pdf

                                    edit: longer with regular maintenance in large underground storage.

                                    Weird, my car has no problems going longer than that.

                                    I've also had varied results with long term fuel storage as well, it usually can last much longer, but I think perhaps it can be bad for the engine.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
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                                      Yeah I'm constantly hearing about how people leave gas in the fuel can, and it turns into jello....

                                      I'd very much doubt that it would last decades or centuries as well..

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                                      • gjacobseG
                                        gjacobse @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                        How quickly can a train turn around..... or even reverse away from a blocked path? (honestly asking)

                                        About thirty seconds. Nowhere nearly as fast as a car, but fast. Remember they are electric drive so crazy torque. And they have a LOT of traction. So they can stop on a dime at 8-10 mph with a light load. Fast enough that someone trying to catch you would have a really, really tough time. Especially if you control the train, the firepower from the train, have the high ground lookout of the train and control the horn to call zombies to you whenever you want.

                                        Uhm - thirty seconds? how long is your train? what is it's displacement? A model train maybe,.. not a twenty-five car train,..

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                                        • gjacobseG
                                          gjacobse @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                          So diesel, or overhead electric cables. . .

                                          Those are the two options. Overhead electric is mostly just NYC.

                                          Whcih would go down with the grid.

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                                          • gjacobseG
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Walking Dead Plot Holes - How would IT folk survive:

                                            What is the shelf life on diesel?

                                            It's like gasoline, it would last for decades or centuries.

                                            Not without treatment.

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