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    • olivierO
      olivier @Francesco Provino
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      @Francesco-Provino Solution is creating a template with CloudInit process, then Xen Orchestra can do the rest. See https://xen-orchestra.com/blog/full-cloudinit-power-in-xenserver/

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill
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        My new take on XS is to not touch XS. It's like Fight Club.

        The easy way for ISOs I found was...

        a) set up a new Linux Mint VM
        b) set up an anonymous share
        c) add ISOs
        d) done

        Windows works, but it;s hard to do anonymous shares, I've always found. You could create a user, which I did initially, but I've since moved to a small Mint instance and haven't looked back.

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          Francesco Provino @olivier
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          @olivier or via cloudinit, exactly, I just forgot to add it.

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          • olivierO
            olivier @Francesco Provino
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            @Francesco-Provino said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

            @olivier or via cloudinit, exactly, I just forgot to add it.

            The thing is we already have CloudInit support, so it would be a shame to not using it 😛

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            • olivierO
              olivier @BRRABill
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              @BRRABill said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

              My new take on XS is to not touch XS. It's like Fight Club.

              The easy way for ISOs I found was...

              a) set up a new Linux Mint VM
              b) set up an anonymous share
              c) add ISOs
              d) done

              Windows works, but it;s hard to do anonymous shares, I've always found. You could create a user, which I did initially, but I've since moved to a small Mint instance and haven't looked back.

              That's a way to do it also yes. In general, I've got always a physical machine (eg for backup) with enough space to do that. Doesn't require much bandwidth and power to simply share ISOs.

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22
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                Thoughts @scottalanmiller ?

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @olivier
                  last edited by

                  @olivier said

                  That's a way to do it also yes. In general, I've got always a physical machine (eg for backup) with enough space to do that. Doesn't require much bandwidth and power to simply share ISOs.

                  Yeah, just giving options. 🙂

                  There are many. 🙂

                  Anything that can share files would work. I just find sharing files anonymously through Windows maddening.

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                  • olivierO
                    olivier @BRRABill
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                    @BRRABill said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                    @olivier said

                    That's a way to do it also yes. In general, I've got always a physical machine (eg for backup) with enough space to do that. Doesn't require much bandwidth and power to simply share ISOs.

                    Yeah, just giving options. 🙂

                    There are many. 🙂

                    Anything that can share files would work. I just find sharing files anonymously through Windows maddening.

                    I have no idea, last time I tried it was 10 years ago.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @olivier
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                      @olivier said

                      I have no idea, last time I tried it was 10 years ago.

                      It's probably why you moved on! 😉

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22
                        last edited by wirestyle22

                        If I shared my SSD on my desktop how would I handle the permissions for mounting in XS? I did attempt this but it failed. Granted I had to leave immediately after and didnt get the chance to troubleshoot it.

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @wirestyle22
                          last edited by BRRABill

                          @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                          If I shared my SSD on my desktop how would I handle the permissions for mounting? I did attempt this but it failed. Granted I had to leave immediately after and didnt get the chance to troubleshoot it.

                          You could create a local account on your machine, give it access to the shared directory, and use that when you mount from XS.

                          That's what I did initially.

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                          • wirestyle22W
                            wirestyle22 @BRRABill
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                            @BRRABill said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                            @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                            If I shared my SSD on my desktop how would I handle the permissions for mounting? I did attempt this but it failed. Granted I had to leave immediately after and didnt get the chance to troubleshoot it.

                            You could create a local account on your machine, give it access to the shared directory, and use that when you mount from XS.

                            That's what I did initially.

                            I'll give this all a go when I get home and report back. Thanks everyone!

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22
                              last edited by wirestyle22

                              Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

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                              • dafyreD
                                dafyre @wirestyle22
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                                @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                                I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

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                                • wirestyle22W
                                  wirestyle22 @dafyre
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                                  @dafyre said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                  Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                                  I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

                                  Virtual?

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @wirestyle22
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                                    @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                    @dafyre said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                    Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                                    I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

                                    Virtual?

                                    Always! You should have a reason to be physical otherwise virtual.

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre @wirestyle22
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                                      @wirestyle22 Sorry, yeah.

                                      Unless you're running a lot of heavily used VMs, a dual or quadcore CPU would be fine. My box at home runs a quad core cpu and has 5 or 6 VMs on it with no issues.

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                                      • wirestyle22W
                                        wirestyle22 @coliver
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                                        @coliver said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                        @dafyre said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                        Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                                        I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

                                        Virtual?

                                        Always! You should have a reason to be physical otherwise virtual.

                                        Just for my own knowledge, what would be a good reason to go physical? Just for a point of reference.

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre @wirestyle22
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                                          @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                          @coliver said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                          @dafyre said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                          Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                                          I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

                                          Virtual?

                                          Always! You should have a reason to be physical otherwise virtual.

                                          Just for my own knowledge, what would be a good reason to go physical? Just for a point of reference.

                                          Again... General concensus around here is the only thing you need Physical for is to install the hypervisor. Everything should be virtual these days. 🙂

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                                          • olivierO
                                            olivier @wirestyle22
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                                            @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                            @coliver said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                            @dafyre said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                            Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                                            I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

                                            Virtual?

                                            Always! You should have a reason to be physical otherwise virtual.

                                            Just for my own knowledge, what would be a good reason to go physical? Just for a point of reference.

                                            Maybe NAS/SAN storage, where massive I/Os and scalability is needed (note that you can connect a massive SAN/NAS to a pool so...).

                                            Also, even real-time operations could be done with an Hypervisor now (Xen is going at full speed in automotive industry, via XenRT and Xen ARM projects).

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