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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Son of Jor-El
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      @Son-of-Jor-El this is a bit of an informal site, but I've worked for companies that paid for the big tests of this and the results were required to be on everyone's profiles that you saw anytime that you worked with them (no joke.) It was a bit extreme but let me tell you, when done well they are incredibly accurate, far more than you would ever imagine, and really help with letting people know how to interact with each other. It was so valuable that I've carried it on to many other jobs. I recommend them highly.

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      • Son of Jor-ElS
        Son of Jor-El @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

        @Son-of-Jor-El this is a bit of an informal site, but I've worked for companies that paid for the big tests of this and the results were required to be on everyone's profiles that you saw anytime that you worked with them (no joke.) It was a bit extreme but let me tell you, when done well they are incredibly accurate, far more than you would ever imagine, and really help with letting people know how to interact with each other. It was so valuable that I've carried it on to many other jobs. I recommend them highly.

        My previous job required us to do these as well. I really don't know how they used them and they said it wasn't to find out if you should work with who you worked with but I don't think you can sum up everyone on about a dozen question. Just my $0.02. Another $1.98 gets you a cup of coffee (small size, of course LOL)

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Son of Jor-El
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          @Son-of-Jor-El said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

          @scottalanmiller said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

          @Son-of-Jor-El this is a bit of an informal site, but I've worked for companies that paid for the big tests of this and the results were required to be on everyone's profiles that you saw anytime that you worked with them (no joke.) It was a bit extreme but let me tell you, when done well they are incredibly accurate, far more than you would ever imagine, and really help with letting people know how to interact with each other. It was so valuable that I've carried it on to many other jobs. I recommend them highly.

          My previous job required us to do these as well. I really don't know how they used them and they said it wasn't to find out if you should work with who you worked with but I don't think you can sum up everyone on about a dozen question. Just my $0.02. Another $1.98 gets you a cup of coffee (small size, of course LOL)

          That's why it's not a dozen questions, it's like 500 for a real test.

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          • Son of Jor-ElS
            Son of Jor-El @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

            @Son-of-Jor-El said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

            @scottalanmiller said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

            @Son-of-Jor-El this is a bit of an informal site, but I've worked for companies that paid for the big tests of this and the results were required to be on everyone's profiles that you saw anytime that you worked with them (no joke.) It was a bit extreme but let me tell you, when done well they are incredibly accurate, far more than you would ever imagine, and really help with letting people know how to interact with each other. It was so valuable that I've carried it on to many other jobs. I recommend them highly.

            My previous job required us to do these as well. I really don't know how they used them and they said it wasn't to find out if you should work with who you worked with but I don't think you can sum up everyone on about a dozen question. Just my $0.02. Another $1.98 gets you a cup of coffee (small size, of course LOL)

            That's why it's not a dozen questions, it's like 500 for a real test.

            500???!!! Holy crap! I would never take THAT test!! LOL

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Son of Jor-El
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              @Son-of-Jor-El said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

              @scottalanmiller said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

              @Son-of-Jor-El said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

              @scottalanmiller said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

              @Son-of-Jor-El this is a bit of an informal site, but I've worked for companies that paid for the big tests of this and the results were required to be on everyone's profiles that you saw anytime that you worked with them (no joke.) It was a bit extreme but let me tell you, when done well they are incredibly accurate, far more than you would ever imagine, and really help with letting people know how to interact with each other. It was so valuable that I've carried it on to many other jobs. I recommend them highly.

              My previous job required us to do these as well. I really don't know how they used them and they said it wasn't to find out if you should work with who you worked with but I don't think you can sum up everyone on about a dozen question. Just my $0.02. Another $1.98 gets you a cup of coffee (small size, of course LOL)

              That's why it's not a dozen questions, it's like 500 for a real test.

              500???!!! Holy crap! I would never take THAT test!! LOL

              It's hours, but well worth it. The results are insanely accurate, I could not believe it. I learned so much about myself and other people that I work with from those tests. Seriously worth every second and the hundreds of dollars that was spent per employee to do it.

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              • Minion QueenM
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                I find even this free version very valuable as a manager. Without it there would be lots of trail and error getting to learn how someone works and why they interact the way they do.

                This gives me a headstart in piecing someone into our team.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
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                  @Minion-Queen said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                  I find even this free version very valuable as a manager. Without it there would be lots of trail and error getting to learn how someone works and why they interact the way they do.

                  This gives me a headstart in piecing someone into our team.

                  Trials as well!

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    Even these with very few questions tend to be relatively accurate. But you can see how "loose" it is when people like AJ see variations in results just a year or two apart. A good test would normally show almost zero change over decades. People do change, but extremely little normally and only over great periods of time.

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                    • thanksajdotcomT
                      thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                      Even these with very few questions tend to be relatively accurate. But you can see how "loose" it is when people like AJ see variations in results just a year or two apart. A good test would normally show almost zero change over decades. People do change, but extremely little normally and only over great periods of time.

                      Yeah but in all fairness, I've changed a lot in the past two years, far more than is common, in some very fundamental ways...

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                      • Reid CooperR
                        Reid Cooper @thanksajdotcom
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                        @thanksajdotcom said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                        Even these with very few questions tend to be relatively accurate. But you can see how "loose" it is when people like AJ see variations in results just a year or two apart. A good test would normally show almost zero change over decades. People do change, but extremely little normally and only over great periods of time.

                        Yeah but in all fairness, I've changed a lot in the past two years, far more than is common, in some very fundamental ways...

                        Changing behavior based on experience is not the same as changing personality traits. The MB test is for traits, not behavior.

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                        • thanksajdotcomT
                          thanksajdotcom @Reid Cooper
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                          @Reid-Cooper said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                          @thanksajdotcom said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                          Even these with very few questions tend to be relatively accurate. But you can see how "loose" it is when people like AJ see variations in results just a year or two apart. A good test would normally show almost zero change over decades. People do change, but extremely little normally and only over great periods of time.

                          Yeah but in all fairness, I've changed a lot in the past two years, far more than is common, in some very fundamental ways...

                          Changing behavior based on experience is not the same as changing personality traits. The MB test is for traits, not behavior.

                          What I've been through the past two years changed me at a fundamental level, which didn't just affect my behavior, but who I really am as a person. I'm not surprised that it changed. I actually would have been more surprised if it hadn't...

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                            @thanksajdotcom said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                            @Reid-Cooper said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                            @thanksajdotcom said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                            Even these with very few questions tend to be relatively accurate. But you can see how "loose" it is when people like AJ see variations in results just a year or two apart. A good test would normally show almost zero change over decades. People do change, but extremely little normally and only over great periods of time.

                            Yeah but in all fairness, I've changed a lot in the past two years, far more than is common, in some very fundamental ways...

                            Changing behavior based on experience is not the same as changing personality traits. The MB test is for traits, not behavior.

                            What I've been through the past two years changed me at a fundamental level, which didn't just affect my behavior, but who I really am as a person. I'm not surprised that it changed. I actually would have been more surprised if it hadn't...

                            Changing how you feel about things is not the same as changing who you are. If you feel this to be the case, it indicates that you really don't understand the test. It takes a very, very long time for very minor changes to happen. Life events are not really a factor. I know you think that you are an exception, but that's not how the Myers Briggs works. It is not measuring your attitudes, it is measuring you. What you are showing is that you may have been answering untruthfully or the small scope test is pretty loosey goosy with not having enough data for reliable results. And you can be showing stress flips, which is part of the MB so if you take it under stress some of your stuff will be backwards. But if it shows you changing, something is wrong.

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                            • thanksajdotcomT
                              thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                              @thanksajdotcom said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                              @Reid-Cooper said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                              @thanksajdotcom said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                              Even these with very few questions tend to be relatively accurate. But you can see how "loose" it is when people like AJ see variations in results just a year or two apart. A good test would normally show almost zero change over decades. People do change, but extremely little normally and only over great periods of time.

                              Yeah but in all fairness, I've changed a lot in the past two years, far more than is common, in some very fundamental ways...

                              Changing behavior based on experience is not the same as changing personality traits. The MB test is for traits, not behavior.

                              What I've been through the past two years changed me at a fundamental level, which didn't just affect my behavior, but who I really am as a person. I'm not surprised that it changed. I actually would have been more surprised if it hadn't...

                              Changing how you feel about things is not the same as changing who you are. If you feel this to be the case, it indicates that you really don't understand the test. It takes a very, very long time for very minor changes to happen. Life events are not really a factor. I know you think that you are an exception, but that's not how the Myers Briggs works. It is not measuring your attitudes, it is measuring you. What you are showing is that you may have been answering untruthfully or the small scope test is pretty loosey goosy with not having enough data for reliable results. And you can be showing stress flips, which is part of the MB so if you take it under stress some of your stuff will be backwards. But if it shows you changing, something is wrong.

                              I went from ENFP to ENTP. So, based on what you know, what could affect that type of effect? (deliberately showing off proper grammar skills lol)

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                                @thanksajdotcom said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                                @thanksajdotcom said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                                @Reid-Cooper said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                                @thanksajdotcom said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                                Even these with very few questions tend to be relatively accurate. But you can see how "loose" it is when people like AJ see variations in results just a year or two apart. A good test would normally show almost zero change over decades. People do change, but extremely little normally and only over great periods of time.

                                Yeah but in all fairness, I've changed a lot in the past two years, far more than is common, in some very fundamental ways...

                                Changing behavior based on experience is not the same as changing personality traits. The MB test is for traits, not behavior.

                                What I've been through the past two years changed me at a fundamental level, which didn't just affect my behavior, but who I really am as a person. I'm not surprised that it changed. I actually would have been more surprised if it hadn't...

                                Changing how you feel about things is not the same as changing who you are. If you feel this to be the case, it indicates that you really don't understand the test. It takes a very, very long time for very minor changes to happen. Life events are not really a factor. I know you think that you are an exception, but that's not how the Myers Briggs works. It is not measuring your attitudes, it is measuring you. What you are showing is that you may have been answering untruthfully or the small scope test is pretty loosey goosy with not having enough data for reliable results. And you can be showing stress flips, which is part of the MB so if you take it under stress some of your stuff will be backwards. But if it shows you changing, something is wrong.

                                I went from ENFP to ENTP. So, based on what you know, what could affect that type of effect? (deliberately showing off proper grammar skills lol)

                                Well a good result should not just call you an ENFP, for example, it should give you a kind of "slider" that shows you how far you are to one side or the other. For example, I'm an ENFP sitting about 1% off of the ENTP line. So when I "move" between these two types, it is not that I am changing in any real way, I'm moving one slider a few percentage points one way or the other... which happens under day to day influences. Small and temporary changes are normal. So my "F/T" gauge I am nearly neutral. It's not really one or the other, it's a blend.

                                My P, though, is like 100% P. As far as you can get P. I will never hit J, ever, never, whatsoever. I would have to be a totally different person for that to ever show up, because I'm all the way to one side of the spectrum, not in the middle. Same with my E, I have no I in me at all.

                                But my 100% P might shift a little on a really good day or a really bad day to only 95% P. But I'm still really, really far from going over the J line.

                                Because they are sliders, ranges, not digital one or the other, but analogue you have to take in the whole picture, not just the resulting letters.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  Facts About ENFP

                                  Interesting facts about the ENFP:
                                  •On personality trait scales, scored as Enthusiastic, Outgoing, Spontaneous, Changeable, Impulsive, Energetic, and Understanding
                                  •Scored among highest of all types in available resources for coping with stress
                                  •ENFP women are less likely to suffer from heart disease
                                  •ENFP men are less likely to suffer from chronic pain
                                  •Rated by psychologists as among most likely of all types to have trouble in school
                                  •Overrepresented among academically talented elementary school students
                                  •Personal values include Home & family, Friendships, Creativity, Learning, and Community Service
                                  •Commonly found in careers in counseling, teaching, religion, and the arts

                                  So me.

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                                    thwr @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                                    Facts About ENFP

                                    Interesting facts about the ENFP:
                                    •On personality trait scales, scored as Enthusiastic, Outgoing, Spontaneous, Changeable, Impulsive, Energetic, and Understanding
                                    •Scored among highest of all types in available resources for coping with stress
                                    •ENFP women are less likely to suffer from heart disease
                                    •ENFP men are less likely to suffer from chronic pain
                                    •Rated by psychologists as among most likely of all types to have trouble in school
                                    •Overrepresented among academically talented elementary school students
                                    •Personal values include Home & family, Friendships, Creativity, Learning, and Community Service
                                    •Commonly found in careers in counseling, teaching, religion, and the arts

                                    So me.

                                    and me

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                                    • thanksajdotcomT
                                      thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                                      Facts About ENFP

                                      Interesting facts about the ENFP:
                                      •On personality trait scales, scored as Enthusiastic, Outgoing, Spontaneous, Changeable, Impulsive, Energetic, and Understanding
                                      •Scored among highest of all types in available resources for coping with stress
                                      •ENFP women are less likely to suffer from heart disease
                                      •ENFP men are less likely to suffer from chronic pain
                                      •Rated by psychologists as among most likely of all types to have trouble in school
                                      •Overrepresented among academically talented elementary school students
                                      •Personal values include Home & family, Friendships, Creativity, Learning, and Community Service
                                      •Commonly found in careers in counseling, teaching, religion, and the arts

                                      So me.

                                      My results from two years ago...
                                      https://i.imgur.com/1Ul4ctI.png
                                      Most recent result...
                                      https://i.imgur.com/plZPgUo.png

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                                      • thanksajdotcomT
                                        thanksajdotcom @thanksajdotcom
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                                        @thanksajdotcom said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Which of the 16 Are You?:

                                        Facts About ENFP

                                        Interesting facts about the ENFP:
                                        •On personality trait scales, scored as Enthusiastic, Outgoing, Spontaneous, Changeable, Impulsive, Energetic, and Understanding
                                        •Scored among highest of all types in available resources for coping with stress
                                        •ENFP women are less likely to suffer from heart disease
                                        •ENFP men are less likely to suffer from chronic pain
                                        •Rated by psychologists as among most likely of all types to have trouble in school
                                        •Overrepresented among academically talented elementary school students
                                        •Personal values include Home & family, Friendships, Creativity, Learning, and Community Service
                                        •Commonly found in careers in counseling, teaching, religion, and the arts

                                        So me.

                                        My results from two years ago...
                                        https://i.imgur.com/1Ul4ctI.png
                                        Most recent result...
                                        https://i.imgur.com/plZPgUo.png

                                        My variant was still Turbulent, FYI

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          NOtice that your thinking/feeling is neutral. It's right in the middle. At least this time.

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