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    Quick Guide to Windows 2012 R2 RDS Licensing

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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22 @BRRABill
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      @BRRABill it's sad how right you are

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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        @BRRABill said in Quick Guide to Windows 2012 R2 RDS Licensing:

        @scottalanmiller said

        I need five cars, how many do I have to buy. Um.. five.

        The better question is.

        I have 5 people who need a car to drive to the store, but they all don't have to drive at the same time.

        Reality says buy 1 car. MS licensing says otherwise.

        But that's not the question. That's a question about concurrency, but concurrency isn't related to these licenses. So introducing it is purely purposeless. You have a need for five cars, the currency is irrelevant.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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          @BRRABill said in Quick Guide to Windows 2012 R2 RDS Licensing:

          @scottalanmiller said

          I need five cars, how many do I have to buy. Um.. five.

          The better question is.

          I have 5 people who need a car to drive to the store, but they all don't have to drive at the same time.

          Reality says buy 1 car. MS licensing says otherwise.

          Okay then, five people need to drive to the store. How many driver's licenses do you need? Government says five, @BRRABill says one.

          See why it sounds weird?

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said

            But that's not the question. That's a question about concurrency, but concurrency isn't related to these licenses. So introducing it is purely purposeless. You have a need for five cars, the currency is irrelevant.

            But I do NOT have a need for five cars.

            Licensing says I do. Reality says I do not.

            It's like a book. I can buy 1 book and have 5 people read it, as long as they aren;t all reading at the same time. I don't need 5 books.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said

              Okay then, five people need to drive to the store. How many driver's licenses do you need? Government says five, @BRRABill says one.

              See why it sounds weird?

              The car is the comparison to the software licensing, not a driver's license.

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Quick Guide to Windows 2012 R2 RDS Licensing:

                @BRRABill said in Quick Guide to Windows 2012 R2 RDS Licensing:

                @scottalanmiller said

                I need five cars, how many do I have to buy. Um.. five.

                The better question is.

                I have 5 people who need a car to drive to the store, but they all don't have to drive at the same time.

                Reality says buy 1 car. MS licensing says otherwise.

                But that's not the question. That's a question about concurrency, but concurrency isn't related to these licenses. So introducing it is purely purposeless. You have a need for five cars, the currency is irrelevant.

                If 5 people need 5 cars at the same time then 5 cars are needed. If only 1 user will ever drive at a time you only need one car.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                  @BRRABill said in Quick Guide to Windows 2012 R2 RDS Licensing:

                  @scottalanmiller said

                  But that's not the question. That's a question about concurrency, but concurrency isn't related to these licenses. So introducing it is purely purposeless. You have a need for five cars, the currency is irrelevant.

                  But I do NOT have a need for five cars.

                  Licensing says I do. Reality says I do not.

                  It's like a book. I can buy 1 book and have 5 people read it, as long as they aren;t all reading at the same time. I don't need 5 books.

                  No, you changed the discussion. You need five cars was the base question. You can't just change the base requirement.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                    @BRRABill said in Quick Guide to Windows 2012 R2 RDS Licensing:

                    @scottalanmiller said

                    Okay then, five people need to drive to the store. How many driver's licenses do you need? Government says five, @BRRABill says one.

                    See why it sounds weird?

                    The car is the comparison to the software licensing, not a driver's license.

                    But we are talking about licensing.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                      @wirestyle22 said in Quick Guide to Windows 2012 R2 RDS Licensing:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Quick Guide to Windows 2012 R2 RDS Licensing:

                      @BRRABill said in Quick Guide to Windows 2012 R2 RDS Licensing:

                      @scottalanmiller said

                      I need five cars, how many do I have to buy. Um.. five.

                      The better question is.

                      I have 5 people who need a car to drive to the store, but they all don't have to drive at the same time.

                      Reality says buy 1 car. MS licensing says otherwise.

                      But that's not the question. That's a question about concurrency, but concurrency isn't related to these licenses. So introducing it is purely purposeless. You have a need for five cars, the currency is irrelevant.

                      If 5 people need 5 cars at the same time then 5 cars are needed. If only 1 user will ever drive at a time you only need one car.

                      Not if you go to a car rental place, for example. One per driver. Each rental is normally licensed to just one driver.

                      You are forgetting two things:

                      1. The base need was five cars, we didn't state why. But five are needed, period. Paying for less is paying for less than received.
                      2. This is about licensing, not physical products in hand. So compare to driver's license or leasing.
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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill
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                        cant...argue....on....ML...anymore....about.....licensing...........

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                        • DenisKelleyD
                          DenisKelley @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Quick Guide to Windows 2012 R2 RDS Licensing:

                          @DenisKelley said in Quick Guide to Windows 2012 R2 RDS Licensing:

                          From an old Microsoft post and I'm paraphrasing here:

                          Joe Business User: Hey, I have 300 users that need to use MS Office on RDS, but really only 10 will be connecting. So how many licenses do I need to purchase?

                          Microsoft: 300.

                          I don't know why someone would even need clarification there. What part of "300 users using Office on RDS" would prompt a question? How could that possibly be clearer or more obvious.

                          I need five cars, how many do I have to buy. Um.. five.

                          It's quite simple, Scott. As you noted they make both User and Device CALs pretty much across all their platforms except for MS Office. It is only available as a Device CAL.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @DenisKelley
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                            @DenisKelley said in Quick Guide to Windows 2012 R2 RDS Licensing:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Quick Guide to Windows 2012 R2 RDS Licensing:

                            @DenisKelley said in Quick Guide to Windows 2012 R2 RDS Licensing:

                            From an old Microsoft post and I'm paraphrasing here:

                            Joe Business User: Hey, I have 300 users that need to use MS Office on RDS, but really only 10 will be connecting. So how many licenses do I need to purchase?

                            Microsoft: 300.

                            I don't know why someone would even need clarification there. What part of "300 users using Office on RDS" would prompt a question? How could that possibly be clearer or more obvious.

                            I need five cars, how many do I have to buy. Um.. five.

                            It's quite simple, Scott. As you noted they make both User and Device CALs pretty much across all their platforms except for MS Office. It is only available as a Device CAL.

                            Office 2013 / 2016 is available on RDS via Office 365. No need for device CALs.

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre
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                              The XX concurent users only comes into play if the licensed application offers such a thing. In the case of something like Office 2013, you'd definitely need 300 license...

                              But for Something like... Raiser's Edge, or a Student Information System... You'd only need to license for the expected number of concurrent users.

                              IE: Raiser's Edge can be installed on every computer on my campus... But only 15 of us can log in at one time.

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