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    Over Investing Early Can Be Big Time Failure

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    • bbigfordB
      bbigford
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      Nice response. There is also the notion that the business could pivot as the market changes, and the business needs to adapt, and whatever you invested in initially might be completely upside down from where you end up.

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      • Son of Jor-ElS
        Son of Jor-El
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        Interesting convo. I can't get into too much detail but in the solar industry it is ESSENTIAL to have the investors lined up. If you don't, you die.

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        • bbigfordB
          bbigford @Son of Jor-El
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          @Son-of-Jor-El said in Over Investing Early Can Be Big Time Failure:

          Interesting convo. I can't get into too much detail but in the solar industry it is ESSENTIAL to have the investors lined up. If you don't, you die.

          Having a plan to scale, and having money ready to do so is one thing. Overspending and hoping you scale is another... that one is the dangerous gamble.

          I can drive a monster truck to work because I might need the extra horse power, chassis clearance (maybe there is a flood... we live below a dam and if it breaks we'll be flooded), or because I can get home much faster by just driving over the top of everyone. But it's just unnecessary. 😉

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          • Son of Jor-ElS
            Son of Jor-El @bbigford
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            @BBigford Understand. In this industry, materials are actually secondary to the investors lined up, as odd as that may sound.

            66% of solar companies died in the past 5 years. A lot of it was due to not having the money lined up. It's quite sad...these are real people losing their jobs. 😞

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            • bbigfordB
              bbigford @Son of Jor-El
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              @Son-of-Jor-El said in Over Investing Early Can Be Big Time Failure:

              @BBigford Understand. In this industry, materials are actually secondary to the investors lined up, as odd as that may sound.

              66% of solar companies died in the past 5 years. A lot of it was due to not having the money lined up. It's quite sad...these are real people losing their jobs. 😞

              Yeah that's too bad. You have to remember though that a lot of investments are based on those VCs having investments flowing in. If one of their investments doesn't yield a return, it could be cataclysmic all the way down the chain.

              On the other side, it's not a new technology but it's starting to get a lot more traction but still fluctuates with support. So big investments have to yield big returns, often those VCs will pull funding at the last minute and the entire project collapses. Risky business to be in.

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              • Son of Jor-ElS
                Son of Jor-El @bbigford
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                @BBigford Big time risky. In particular the Chinese market. So funny to see the price of materials going down so far and the price of electricity going up, and yet Chinese solar companies are not growing.

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                  bbigford @Son of Jor-El
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                  @Son-of-Jor-El said in Over Investing Early Can Be Big Time Failure:

                  @BBigford Big time risky. In particular the Chinese market. So funny to see the price of materials going down so far and the price of electricity going up, and yet Chinese solar companies are not growing.

                  Fossil fuels and other kinds of power producing entities will continue to rise until they are far unaffordable. They are consistent and investors see the return, so they will milk those products dry.

                  Nobody wants to be the first line of investors, they just want to see a hefty return.

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                  • Son of Jor-ElS
                    Son of Jor-El @bbigford
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                    @BBigford That is true!! They just want to protect their bottom line!! LOL

                    Solar actually has the biggest profit involved since it is cheap to set up the infrastructure (relatively speaking). Sill sits around 11% of the market.

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                      @BBigford said in Over Investing Early Can Be Big Time Failure:

                      Nice response. There is also the notion that the business could pivot as the market changes, and the business needs to adapt, and whatever you invested in initially might be completely upside down from where you end up.

                      Right, and this can happen from either side.... either your business might go in a new direction, shrink, fail or grow in a way that doesn't require what you invested in. OR the product market might change. Maybe you need to move to hosted solutions, new technologies replace what you had been using or prices drop dramatically.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
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                        @Son-of-Jor-El said in Over Investing Early Can Be Big Time Failure:

                        Interesting convo. I can't get into too much detail but in the solar industry it is ESSENTIAL to have the investors lined up. If you don't, you die.

                        Even with them lined up, you still want to spend money wisely.

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