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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @olivier
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      @olivier said

      My lab is pretty simple, if you need more info on how I achieved those speeds, tell me 🙂

      Well, in theory if I have two machines on a 1GB link, I should see speeds similar to yours, right?

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      • olivierO
        olivier
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        There is no magic: you need to have enough write speed on the target and read speed on the source.

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @olivier
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          @olivier said

          There is no magic: you need to have enough write speed on the target and read speed on the source.

          Yeah, I'll set up some tests once I am done getting everything set back up.

          Right now it's clipping along at 5MB/s so it's taking forever.....

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @olivier
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            @olivier said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

            There is no magic: you need to have enough write speed on the target and read speed on the source.

            What is the sustained write speed on a SATA drive? I'm guessing it must be a lot lower than 120 MB/s??

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            • olivierO
              olivier
              last edited by olivier

              Depends of the drive, roughly between 40 and 60 MiB/s

              edit: for a HDD

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1 @BRRABill
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                @BRRABill said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                @olivier said

                There is no magic: you need to have enough write speed on the target and read speed on the source.

                Yeah, I'll set up some tests once I am done getting everything set back up.

                Right now it's clipping along at 5MB/s so it's taking forever.....

                Something is wrong with that picture. Even older SATA drives can hit 100MB/s. 100MB network connection could be topping out at that.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill
                  last edited by

                  For me, this is SSD going to SSD.

                  Granted, this current import is from my 100mbps desktop connection, but still, 40mbps is slow.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill
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                    I'm importing a 40GB VM, and it's already been almost 2 hours, which is about what 40GB takes to transfer at 5MB/s.

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                    • travisdh1T
                      travisdh1 @BRRABill
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                      @BRRABill said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                      For me, this is SSD going to SSD.

                      Granted, this current import is from my 100mbps desktop connection, but still, 40mbps is slow.

                      That's within reason for a 100Mb network connection. The best I've seen out of a 100Mb network is 9MB/sec, that's on a network with zero other traffic.

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                      • travisdh1T
                        travisdh1 @BRRABill
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                        @BRRABill 1Gb networks are much nicer, and not any more expensive anymore. For future consideration.

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @travisdh1
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                          @travisdh1 said

                          That's within reason for a 100Mb network connection. The best I've seen out of a 100Mb network is 9MB/sec, that's on a network with zero other traffic.

                          Yeah, I am really just chatting at this point.

                          I'll set up two VMs on separate segments and test straight throughput and then the export/copy ... everything else.

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @travisdh1
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                            @travisdh1 said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                            @BRRABill 1Gb networks are much nicer, and not any more expensive anymore. For future consideration.

                            Yeah, it's a long story. 🙂

                            The servers are all connected via 1GB, though.

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @BRRABill
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                              @BRRABill said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                              @travisdh1 said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                              @BRRABill 1Gb networks are much nicer, and not any more expensive anymore. For future consideration.

                              Yeah, it's a long story. 🙂

                              The servers are all connected via 1GB, though.

                              Assuming we both make it to Mangocon, maybe we can trade war stories 😄

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @travisdh1
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                                @travisdh1 said

                                Assuming we both make it to Mangocon, maybe we can trade war stories 😄

                                Sounds good!

                                I mean, 100Mbps is fine for 99% of what we do. It's just these VM transfers are a bear.

                                But, the new me with my fancy ML knowledge now just sets up a Linux instance and does the import/export on the 1GB segment. Viva la open source!

                                Of course THAT was also slow, which has me wondering... But as I said, nothing firm tested yet so we shall see.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                  @olivier said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                  There is no magic: you need to have enough write speed on the target and read speed on the source.

                                  What is the sustained write speed on a SATA drive? I'm guessing it must be a lot lower than 120 MB/s??

                                  Way, way slower.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                                    @travisdh1 said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                    @BRRABill said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                    @olivier said

                                    There is no magic: you need to have enough write speed on the target and read speed on the source.

                                    Yeah, I'll set up some tests once I am done getting everything set back up.

                                    Right now it's clipping along at 5MB/s so it's taking forever.....

                                    Something is wrong with that picture. Even older SATA drives can hit 100MB/s. 100MB network connection could be topping out at that.

                                    Can hit, but not sustain. Generally can't hit for very long at all.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                      @BRRABill said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                      For me, this is SSD going to SSD.

                                      Granted, this current import is from my 100mbps desktop connection, but still, 40mbps is slow.

                                      Don't mix speeds or write speed casually. Your desktop connection must be 100Mb/s (seriously, though, how did this happen, am I confused and this is still 2004?) and the drive speed is written in 40MB/s which is 320Mb/s. Right?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                                        last edited by

                                        @travisdh1 said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                        @BRRABill said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                        For me, this is SSD going to SSD.

                                        Granted, this current import is from my 100mbps desktop connection, but still, 40mbps is slow.

                                        That's within reason for a 100Mb network connection. The best I've seen out of a 100Mb network is 9MB/sec, that's on a network with zero other traffic.

                                        Yeah, that even would be a rare speed. The rule of thumb is that on an empty connection you'd unlikely break 8MB/s.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                          @BRRABill said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                          For me, this is SSD going to SSD.

                                          Granted, this current import is from my 100mbps desktop connection, but still, 40mbps is slow.

                                          Don't mix speeds or write speed casually. Your desktop connection must be 100Mb/s (seriously, though, how did this happen, am I confused and this is still 2004?) and the drive speed is written in 40MB/s which is 320Mb/s. Right?

                                          Sigh - I installed new switches here in 2008 that were all 100 Mb - the price for 1 Gb switches was nearly double.

                                          We are looking at replacing the switches, though like our old Wireless G system, they aren't failing, they are just on the slow side. And unlike the wireless - which is EOL, no support - the HP Switches have a lifetime guarantee.

                                          So I find myself in the same quandry I asked about a year ago with my wireless - do I replace the switches just because they are old and slow, but not affecting production?

                                          Sure in testing or me personally, I'm affected when I try to copy a large file to install Dragon Naturally Speaking, on the rare cases I need to do so, but is that enough to warrant switch replacement?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                                            Sigh - I installed new switches here in 2008 that were all 100 Mb - the price for 1 Gb switches was nearly double.

                                            That's half a decade after I replaced the switches at HOME with GigE!

                                            You know you could have put in 100Mb/s Hubs for free that would have been "infinitely" cheaper than the 100Mb/s ones. 😉 Price ratio isn't important, ROI is.

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