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    • Deleted74295D
      Deleted74295 Banned
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      The goal

      A server which can be used for proof of concepts, training, demonstrations and a panic disaster server if needed but no one will cry if the server is damaged on site.

      XenServer is the hyper visor of choice, trying out Xen Orchestra for the first time with it but with XenCenter as a backup.


      I found this Dell T310 from a UK refurb company.

      Arrived in very good condition.

      • All settings properly reset to factory.
      • Working iDrac
      • Disks were wiped and clean.

      0_1463521974516_upload-9566c0ba-f737-4c1a-8632-eca8dc4c2ba3

      Spec
      CPU 1 x INTEL XEON X3430 8MB Cache 2.4GHz QUAD CORE PROCESSOR
      RAM 32GB (4x 8GB)
      HDD 2x DELL 500GB 7.2K 3.5" SATA
      RAID CONTROLLER Perc 6i SAS/SATA
      BACKPLANE 4x LFF
      OPTICAL MEDIA DVD
      PSU 1x PSU

      Price
      Was about $315.

      Let's see how it does.

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      • MattSpellerM
        MattSpeller
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        What's your first project for it?

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        • Deleted74295D
          Deleted74295 Banned @MattSpeller
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          @MattSpeller said in Lab/Demo/Training Server, Refurb:

          What's your first project for it?

          Drop a 2016 VM onto it. Run some bench marks. It's already got a raid-1 of the 2 disks and XenServer is installed along with Orchestra.

          Orchestra as a UI does not feel intuitive. XenCenter is almost exactly the same as Hyper-v Or VMWare, Orchestra feels very different. Too many things spread out on the screen for me.

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            Alex Sage @Deleted74295
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            @Breffni-Potter said in Lab/Demo/Training Server, Refurb:

            Orchestra as a UI does not feel intuitive.

            @olivier is working on it 🙂

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @Alex Sage
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              @aaronstuder

              Yeah the new version looks sweet.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
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                @Breffni-Potter awesome glad you're trying out XenServer.

                How do you have XS installed?

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                • hobbit666H
                  hobbit666 @Deleted74295
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                  @Breffni-Potter said in Lab/Demo/Training Server, Refurb:

                  The goal

                  A server which can be used for proof of concepts, training, demonstrations and a panic disaster server if needed but no one will cry if the server is damaged on site.

                  XenServer is the hyper visor of choice, trying out Xen Orchestra for the first time with it but with XenCenter as a backup.


                  I found this Dell T310 from a UK refurb company.

                  Arrived in very good condition.

                  • All settings properly reset to factory.
                  • Working iDrac
                  • Disks were wiped and clean.

                  0_1463521974516_upload-9566c0ba-f737-4c1a-8632-eca8dc4c2ba3

                  Spec
                  CPU 1 x INTEL XEON X3430 8MB Cache 2.4GHz QUAD CORE PROCESSOR
                  RAM 32GB (4x 8GB)
                  HDD 2x DELL 500GB 7.2K 3.5" SATA
                  RAID CONTROLLER Perc 6i SAS/SATA
                  BACKPLANE 4x LFF
                  OPTICAL MEDIA DVD
                  PSU 1x PSU

                  Price
                  Was about $315.

                  Let's see how it does.

                  What refurb company did you get it from?
                  Might be in the market for 2 servers for a Citrix Farm soon.

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                  • Deleted74295D
                    Deleted74295 Banned @DustinB3403
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                    @DustinB3403 said

                    How do you have XS installed?

                    Installed on a 16GB USB inside the machine so it never gets unplugged during transport.

                    XenServer seems to do almost everything out of the box VMWare can and it was stupidly easy to install & setup. I fat fingered during the install though. XenServer allows you to install the OS to the same media as you are installing from, so I managed to trash my install USB the first time because they were both identical 16 GB USBs.

                    The only thing I'm not happy about, is getting the iDrac 6 virtual console working. Trying a few things out.

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                    • Deleted74295D
                      Deleted74295 Banned
                      last edited by Deleted74295

                      @hobbit666

                      There were 5 of them yesterday, they went really quick

                      http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262381932250?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

                      Though to be honest, I could get double the processor performance if I went for rackmount for the same money. It's only because I wanted a tower format that I went with this one.

                      I've got a friend whose a genius at finding servers on Ebay, so if you are shopping, let me know 🙂

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @Deleted74295
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                        @Breffni-Potter said

                        The only thing I'm not happy about, is getting the iDrac 6 virtual console working. Trying a few things out.

                        Is the iDrac6 like the 7 and later models? Where it is installed with very basic functionality in every server, and things like the virtual console have to be licensed?

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                        • Deleted74295D
                          Deleted74295 Banned @BRRABill
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                          @BRRABill said in Lab/Demo/Training Server, Refurb:

                          @Breffni-Potter said

                          The only thing I'm not happy about, is getting the iDrac 6 virtual console working. Trying a few things out.

                          Is the iDrac6 like the 7 and later models? Where it is installed with very basic functionality in every server, and things like the virtual console have to be licensed?

                          I thought that only happened with 7 and up but in looking at it it seems they did it by the card.

                          So you can get an express card or an enterprise card, but not a license.

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                          • Deleted74295D
                            Deleted74295 Banned
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                            Pair of drives in raid-1. Don't do too badly on this box.

                            0_1466028612177_upload-7790dd1f-d245-4696-9d41-ee9cbd44dddd

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                            • Deleted74295D
                              Deleted74295 Banned
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                              So Xen has been running for weeks now.

                              I've thrown everything under the sun at it. I've seen VMWare and Hyper-v on boxes of a similar spec but Xen is out-performing them, not by a huge amount but enough to make me consider it as a choice for deployments.

                              If only more vendors supported it....

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @Deleted74295
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                                @Breffni-Potter Most vendors don't support it because it includes everything you need already, not much value add with that. Unless you really do mean Xen instead of XenServer.

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                                • Deleted74295D
                                  Deleted74295 Banned
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                                  Bit of a bump.

                                  Added a pair of drives, everything is running on a single raid-10 array, 1.3TB usable storage.

                                  XenServer has been replaced with an eval install of 2016 Server for now. I've really liked XenServer but parking it to one side for now.

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                                  • DanpD
                                    Danp @Deleted74295
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                                    @Breffni-Potter said in Lab/Demo/Training Server, Refurb:

                                    XenServer has been replaced with an eval install of 2016 Server for now. I've really liked XenServer but parking it to one side for now.

                                    Why didn't you install the 2016 server as a VM under XS?

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                                    • Deleted74295D
                                      Deleted74295 Banned @Danp
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                                      @Danp said in Lab/Demo/Training Server, Refurb:

                                      @Breffni-Potter said in Lab/Demo/Training Server, Refurb:

                                      XenServer has been replaced with an eval install of 2016 Server for now. I've really liked XenServer but parking it to one side for now.

                                      Why didn't you install the 2016 server as a VM under XS?

                                      I did that when I first got the system.

                                      I'm messing about with 2016 as a host with Hyper-v.

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                                      • dafyreD
                                        dafyre @Deleted74295
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                                        @Breffni-Potter said in Lab/Demo/Training Server, Refurb:

                                        @Danp said in Lab/Demo/Training Server, Refurb:

                                        @Breffni-Potter said in Lab/Demo/Training Server, Refurb:

                                        XenServer has been replaced with an eval install of 2016 Server for now. I've really liked XenServer but parking it to one side for now.

                                        Why didn't you install the 2016 server as a VM under XS?

                                        I did that when I first got the system.

                                        I'm messing about with 2016 as a host with Hyper-v.

                                        How does it run?

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                                        • StrongBadS
                                          StrongBad
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                                          Were you new to XS? What is your impression of XS vs. Hyper-V?

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                                          • Deleted74295D
                                            Deleted74295 Banned @dafyre
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                                            @dafyre said in Lab/Demo/Training Server, Refurb:

                                            @Breffni-Potter said in Lab/Demo/Training Server, Refurb:

                                            @Danp said in Lab/Demo/Training Server, Refurb:

                                            @Breffni-Potter said in Lab/Demo/Training Server, Refurb:

                                            XenServer has been replaced with an eval install of 2016 Server for now. I've really liked XenServer but parking it to one side for now.

                                            Why didn't you install the 2016 server as a VM under XS?

                                            I did that when I first got the system.

                                            I'm messing about with 2016 as a host with Hyper-v.

                                            How does it run?

                                            It's running as a server cluster with nested virtualisation (It's a lab, don't panic because it's a single physical box)

                                            Really really liking 2016 so far, some nice new features they have snuck into it.

                                            Apart from the CPU which is obvious, the system runs fairly quickly, everything nice and snappy. It's been up since Sunday.

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