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    • bbigfordB
      bbigford
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      Worth noting, we already use DPM for anything related to any other box (workstation/server VHDs) so we wouldn't converge into something like Unitrends. They were far too expensive in the past compared to staying with DPM. This is only for about 5 computers in the same building.

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      • bbigfordB
        bbigford @bbigford
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        @BBigford said in OSX Backups:

        so we wouldn't converge into something like Unitrends.

        *strictly Unitrends, and cut DPM loose.

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in OSX Backups:

          No, have not dealt with OSX because that's always an end user machine and if the user had value, then we wouldn't let their data be on the Mac so no need to back it up.

          LOL.

          I am going to pitch a new reality show to a network. We are going to drop you as a regular IT worker into the scenarios most of us deal with all the time and see how you react.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @bbigford
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            @BBigford

            Is there any budget? What about something like BackBlaze?

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            • bbigfordB
              bbigford @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in OSX Backups:

              No, have not dealt with OSX because that's always an end user machine and if the user had value, then we wouldn't let their data be on the Mac so no need to back it up.

              Lol well the C levels are 100% unwavering to changing from OSX. So I have no control there.

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @bbigford
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                @BBigford said

                Lol well the C levels are 100% unwavering to changing from OSX. So I have no control there.

                The plot for my new reality show thickens.

                Also this week, the new CEO brings in his daughter's friend's Mac, and says he thinks there might be a virus on it, and can IT take a look at it.

                Tune in!

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                • bbigfordB
                  bbigford @BRRABill
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                  @BRRABill said in OSX Backups:

                  @BBigford

                  Is there any budget? What about something like BackBlaze?

                  If I had to put a number on it right this second... I would say $5k total (non-recurring costs), since it is for so few machines.

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                  • bbigfordB
                    bbigford @BRRABill
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                    @BRRABill said in OSX Backups:

                    @BBigford said

                    Lol well the C levels are 100% unwavering to changing from OSX. So I have no control there.

                    The plot for my new reality show thickens.

                    Also this week, the new CEO brings in his daughter's friend's Mac, and says he thinks there might be a virus on it, and can IT take a look at it.

                    Tune in!

                    Ok that's pretty funny.

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                    • bbigfordB
                      bbigford @BRRABill
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                      @BRRABill I'm not against BackBlaze. Do they do just file level backup or complete image restore? Any experience with it personally, if so what shortfalls if any did you notice? Is it an automated backup or does it have to be something you have to remember to do? The price is enticing.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @bbigford
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                        @BBigford said

                        If I had to put a number on it right this second... I would say $5k total (non-recurring costs), since it is for so few machines.

                        Could you use an online service? Are you just looking to backup data?

                        That would be $25-$50 a month for all 5 machines.

                        We use CrashPlan for our 5 C-level people. Though I have been considering a change to BackBlaze.

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                        • bbigfordB
                          bbigford @BRRABill
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                          @BRRABill said in OSX Backups:

                          @BBigford said

                          If I had to put a number on it right this second... I would say $5k total (non-recurring costs), since it is for so few machines.

                          Could you use an online service? Are you just looking to backup data?

                          Actually, we can now! It used to be that chain of command forbid online services out of fear for security. From the CEO, "the data is not as important as others might think. We aren't a development company. I just want the damn thing to restore our files when we mess something up. That's all."

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                            @BRRABill said in OSX Backups:

                            @BBigford said

                            If I had to put a number on it right this second... I would say $5k total (non-recurring costs), since it is for so few machines.

                            Could you use an online service? Are you just looking to backup data?

                            That would be $25-$50 a month for all 5 machines.

                            We use CrashPlan for our 5 C-level people. Though I have been considering a change to BackBlaze.

                            BackBlaze is what I would likely use.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @bbigford
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                              @BBigford said in OSX Backups:

                              Actually, we can now! It used to be that chain of command forbid online services out of fear for security.

                              And yet... Macs.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @bbigford
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                                @BBigford said

                                @BRRABill I'm not against BackBlaze. Do they do just file level backup or complete image restore? Any experience with it personally, if so what shortfalls if any did you notice? Is it an automated backup or does it have to be something you have to remember to do? The price is enticing.

                                Just file level backups.

                                You'll get a lot of people heere at ML against image backups for endpoints. And I'm moved to agreeing with them. It makes a lot of sense to backup the data, and the reimage/reinstall the machine.

                                BBackBlaze and CrashPlan are both fully automatic. CrashPlan you can also backup locally which is nice.

                                They both also have business plans so you can monitor the backups and administrate them as well.

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                                • bbigfordB
                                  bbigford @BRRABill
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                                  @BRRABill said in OSX Backups:

                                  @BBigford said

                                  If I had to put a number on it right this second... I would say $5k total (non-recurring costs), since it is for so few machines.

                                  Could you use an online service? Are you just looking to backup data?

                                  That would be $25-$50 a month for all 5 machines.

                                  We use CrashPlan for our 5 C-level people. Though I have been considering a change to BackBlaze.

                                  Just looking to backup data. But what has been nice about Time Machine (not using Time Capsule currently, just external drives as the targets), is that it takes a complete snapshot. So if they delete a contact in Outlook, it has them covered, vs. just backing up their documents/pictures/etc.

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                                  • bbigfordB
                                    bbigford @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in OSX Backups:

                                    @BBigford said in OSX Backups:

                                    Actually, we can now! It used to be that chain of command forbid online services out of fear for security.

                                    And yet... Macs.

                                    But Macs don't get viruses...

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @bbigford
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                                      @BBigford said

                                      . So if they delete a contact in Outlook, it has them covered, vs. just backing up their documents/pictures/etc.

                                      Can you restore just one contact from Time Machine?

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                                      • bbigfordB
                                        bbigford @BRRABill
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                                        @BRRABill said in OSX Backups:

                                        @BBigford said

                                        . So if they delete a contact in Outlook, it has them covered, vs. just backing up their documents/pictures/etc.

                                        Can you restore just one contact from Time Machine?

                                        Honestly, I haven't used Time Machine in like 8 years. It used to be that you had to pick a snapshot you wanted to go to. Maybe it is more granular now, but with how quickly Apple innovates, I wouldn't hold my breath for such control.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @bbigford
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                                          @BBigford said

                                          Actually, we can now! It used to be that chain of command forbid online services out of fear for security. From the CEO, "the data is not as important as others might think. We aren't a development company. I just want the damn thing to restore our files when we mess something up. That's all."

                                          I'm not sure about backBlaze but CrashPlan let's you pick you own encryption key and whatnot. Pretty secure IMO.

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                                          • bbigfordB
                                            bbigford @BRRABill
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                                            @BRRABill said in OSX Backups:

                                            @BBigford said

                                            Actually, we can now! It used to be that chain of command forbid online services out of fear for security. From the CEO, "the data is not as important as others might think. We aren't a development company. I just want the damn thing to restore our files when we mess something up. That's all."

                                            I'm not sure about backBlaze but CrashPlan let's you pick you own encryption key and whatnot. Pretty secure IMO.

                                            Security isn't being thrown out the window, but is much more lax now. Some C-levels are using Dropbox for God's sake.

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