Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti
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All kinds of things can cause issues with powerline systems. They are better than they used to be but ideally you want same leg and same circuit and same everything for best results.
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@scottalanmiller said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
All kinds of things can cause issues with powerline systems. They are better than they used to be but ideally you want same leg and same circuit and same everything for best results.
What are the realistic chances of the same circuit though? In two adjoining rooms, maybe. But from one side of the house to the other, seems very unlikely.
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Yup, tends to work, but you just never know. Like wireless, you just have to test and see.
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@Dashrender said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
All kinds of things can cause issues with powerline systems. They are better than they used to be but ideally you want same leg and same circuit and same everything for best results.
What are the realistic chances of the same circuit though? In two adjoining rooms, maybe. But from one side of the house to the other, seems very unlikely.
Yea. There are sections of my house that have each wall receptacle on its own circuit! (Just the kitchen and one other room, but still).
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I wonder how North American units will work in Europe. Are they compatible at all? We'd consider travelling with them but would need to do some testing.
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@Dashrender said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
All kinds of things can cause issues with powerline systems. They are better than they used to be but ideally you want same leg and same circuit and same everything for best results.
What are the realistic chances of the same circuit though? In two adjoining rooms, maybe. But from one side of the house to the other, seems very unlikely.
You have to be just as careful about security with those as you do with wifi as well. If a number of houses are fed by the same transformer, I can read your network from the neighbors place....
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@travisdh1 said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@Dashrender said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
All kinds of things can cause issues with powerline systems. They are better than they used to be but ideally you want same leg and same circuit and same everything for best results.
What are the realistic chances of the same circuit though? In two adjoining rooms, maybe. But from one side of the house to the other, seems very unlikely.
You have to be just as careful about security with those as you do with wifi as well. If a number of houses are fed by the same transformer, I can read your network from the neighbors place....
I'm not sure that the Powerline stuff is THAT strong yet. I could be wrong, lol. But I know a couple of years ago I was checking on it for someone and that having them all on the same circuit was still a requirement then, and they couldn't do it because they needed one in one part of the house, and one in the other.
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@travisdh1 When I was a kid we had powerline intercoms, same technology just less advanced. Our house and barn were different "houses" according to the power company but the intercom worked perfectly between them. So we used the "house to house" feature of powerline all the time growing up. Ethernet over Powerline would work fine there, too. Probably half of my dad's street would turn into a single LAN.
Netgear Prosafe Powerline systems uses IPSec to make each LAN it's own VPN to protect against this.
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@dafyre said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@Dashrender said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
All kinds of things can cause issues with powerline systems. They are better than they used to be but ideally you want same leg and same circuit and same everything for best results.
What are the realistic chances of the same circuit though? In two adjoining rooms, maybe. But from one side of the house to the other, seems very unlikely.
Yea. There are sections of my house that have each wall receptacle on its own circuit! (Just the kitchen and one other room, but still).
This is typical. I think code requires that those areas be on GFI circuits to help prevent electrocutions.
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@dafyre said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@travisdh1 said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@Dashrender said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@scottalanmiller said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
All kinds of things can cause issues with powerline systems. They are better than they used to be but ideally you want same leg and same circuit and same everything for best results.
What are the realistic chances of the same circuit though? In two adjoining rooms, maybe. But from one side of the house to the other, seems very unlikely.
You have to be just as careful about security with those as you do with wifi as well. If a number of houses are fed by the same transformer, I can read your network from the neighbors place....
I'm not sure that the Powerline stuff is THAT strong yet. I could be wrong, lol. But I know a couple of years ago I was checking on it for someone and that having them all on the same circuit was still a requirement then, and they couldn't do it because they needed one in one part of the house, and one in the other.
The thing about is is that it can easily do it or easily fail. It's unreliable both in that it might not work for your needs and unreliable in that you can count on it not stretching across town. If you are in an apartment building you would really have a high chance of bleed.
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@dafyre said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
I'm not sure that the Powerline stuff is THAT strong yet. I could be wrong, lol. But I know a couple of years ago I was checking on it for someone and that having them all on the same circuit was still a requirement then, and they couldn't do it because they needed one in one part of the house, and one in the other.
Ah yes. I could still read that data from the neighbors. Remember that the power going into the house is actually 240V that gets split to provide the 120V we're used to. So a power line thing plugged into a circuit connected to one side of the box will have difficulty talking to something on the other leg.
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@dafyre said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
I'm not sure that the Powerline stuff is THAT strong yet. I could be wrong, lol. But I know a couple of years ago I was checking on it for someone and that having them all on the same circuit was still a requirement then, and they couldn't do it because they needed one in one part of the house, and one in the other.
It is still a requirement per every vendor spec sheet. But that does not mean that it will not work. Basically as long as you are on the same leg of the 240 it will almost always work perfectly. They just won't sell it as such.
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Like you guys, I'd read bad things about powerline Ethernet. But for $40 I figured what the hell. It's been rock solid. For those of you who haven't tried it in the past year or so, give one of the TDLink units a try and see how it goes in your house. As long as your house isn't ancient then the wiring should be good enough.
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@Nic I'll have to try powerline again... haven't had good experiences with it in the past, but that was 4 or 5 years ago. I will say if you have coax running to the places I am a big fan of the MOCA adapters.
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@brianlittlejohn yeah I looked at those too, but since we have a lot more power outlets than cable outlets, I figured give that a shot first. I'm guessing that MOCA is just as good as powerline at this point.
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@brianlittlejohn said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@Nic I'll have to try powerline again... haven't had good experiences with it in the past, but that was 4 or 5 years ago. I will say if you have coax running to the places I am a big fan of the MOCA adapters.
Do you need to put these coax cables on their own grouping so it doesn't interfere with normal Cable TV/internet?
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@Dashrender The only service it interferes with is DirectTV. It can run alongside the cableTV & internet service. MOCA is how most of the multiroom DVR's communicate and stream video.
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@Dashrender It also won't pass through an amplified splitter.
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@brianlittlejohn said in Home Wireless - Rewiring - Considering Ubiquiti:
@Dashrender It also won't pass through an amplified splitter.
But the cable boxes will?
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@Dashrender It really depends on the amp... some of them have upstream pass through ability.
