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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch said:

      @Dashrender said:

      I guess I would love to see the carriers themselves get out of the hand set selling business. Europe doesn't seem to have this problem where the carriers need to get in the way of device working, so why do they need to here?

      Profits

      And lack of regulations. European laws are what stop the carriers there from doing it, not a lack of desiring profits. EU protections go a long way here, ISP oversight is a major thing.

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      • nadnerBN
        nadnerB
        last edited by nadnerB

        http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/18/w10m_deprecated_features/
        Full list referred to in ^ https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/Windows-10-specifications#featdeprphone
        (You have to select 'mobile'... GG MS)

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        • stacksofplatesS
          stacksofplates @nadnerB
          last edited by

          @nadnerB said:

          http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/18/w10m_deprecated_features/
          Full list referred to in ^ https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/Windows-10-specifications#featdeprphone
          (You have to select 'mobile'... GG MS)

          For consumers, the obvious social networks integration is the most obvious missing feature. Notifications won’t work on contact tiles, and Cortana is only half finished – it doesn’t (in its current state) search the device any longer. Just the web and the cloud.

          So it's taken this long and that's still not finished? What are they doing?

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          • nadnerBN
            nadnerB @stacksofplates
            last edited by

            @johnhooks said:

            @nadnerB said:

            http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/18/w10m_deprecated_features/
            Full list referred to in ^ https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/Windows-10-specifications#featdeprphone
            (You have to select 'mobile'... GG MS)

            For consumers, the obvious social networks integration is the most obvious missing feature. Notifications won’t work on contact tiles, and Cortana is only half finished – it doesn’t (in its current state) search the device any longer. Just the web and the cloud.

            So it's taken this long and that's still not finished? What are they doing?

            Looking at that list, I think they may have given the Pirate Order a while ago.

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            • stacksofplatesS
              stacksofplates
              last edited by

              "Maps is better", "email is a little faster", and "Edge is (usually) faster."

              Wow. Great job, no one cares about two out of the three things that they've improved ( I guess you are forced to care about Bing maps since you can't use Google Maps).

              While everyone else is implementing monthly security updates, fingerprint scanners, and even infrared cameras, Microsoft has made your email a tiny bit faster.

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              • nadnerBN
                nadnerB @stacksofplates
                last edited by

                @johnhooks said:

                "Maps is better", "email is a little faster", and "Edge is (usually) faster."

                Wow. Great job, no one cares about two out of the three things that they've improved ( I guess you are forced to care about Bing maps since you can't use Google Maps).

                I really liked HERE Maps and I am very much disappointed that it's not supported in Windows 10 (all versions). I guess I'll have to look at Microsoft/Bing Maps

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                • nadnerBN
                  nadnerB @stacksofplates
                  last edited by

                  @johnhooks said:

                  While everyone else is implementing monthly security updates, fingerprint scanners, and even infrared cameras, Microsoft has made your email a tiny bit faster.

                  If your email downloads correctly in the first place. I've had some issues getting email to download correctly. Not constantly but enough to be irritating.

                  I was hoping that this would be fixed.

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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates @nadnerB
                    last edited by

                    @nadnerB said:

                    @johnhooks said:

                    "Maps is better", "email is a little faster", and "Edge is (usually) faster."

                    Wow. Great job, no one cares about two out of the three things that they've improved ( I guess you are forced to care about Bing maps since you can't use Google Maps).

                    I really liked HERE Maps and I am very much disappointed that it's not supported in Windows 10 (all versions). I guess I'll have to look at Microsoft/Bing Maps

                    I forgot about HERE Maps. Why would they remove support for that? The Nokia stuff was the only real apps that worked.

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                    • nadnerBN
                      nadnerB @stacksofplates
                      last edited by

                      @johnhooks said:

                      @nadnerB said:

                      @johnhooks said:

                      "Maps is better", "email is a little faster", and "Edge is (usually) faster."

                      Wow. Great job, no one cares about two out of the three things that they've improved ( I guess you are forced to care about Bing maps since you can't use Google Maps).

                      I really liked HERE Maps and I am very much disappointed that it's not supported in Windows 10 (all versions). I guess I'll have to look at Microsoft/Bing Maps

                      I forgot about HERE Maps. Why would they remove support for that? The Nokia stuff was the only real apps that worked.

                      They are using a work around that will no longer be supported after a specific date in June.
                      An entire rewrite is required for continued support

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                      • nadnerBN
                        nadnerB
                        last edited by nadnerB

                        Ah,
                        So, 30 June 2016 mean No more Here Maps
                        Satay sauce: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/15/here_mappers_dump_windows_10_users/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=gplus

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @nadnerB
                          last edited by

                          @nadnerB said:

                          Ah,
                          So, 30 June 2016 mean No more Here Maps
                          Stay sauce: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/15/here_mappers_dump_windows_10_users/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=gplus

                          So much for that "universal apps" idea of Windows 10. Clearly it is "universally runs nowhere."

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @nadnerB said:

                            Ah,
                            So, 30 June 2016 mean No more Here Maps
                            Stay sauce: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/15/here_mappers_dump_windows_10_users/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=gplus

                            So much for that "universal apps" idea of Windows 10. Clearly it is "universally runs nowhere."

                            This is a point that you and I went round and round on. MS I don't think ever intended universal apps to be what you call call universal. They intended them to be runable from any place Windows 10 happens to be.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @nadnerB said:

                              Ah,
                              So, 30 June 2016 mean No more Here Maps
                              Stay sauce: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/15/here_mappers_dump_windows_10_users/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=gplus

                              So much for that "universal apps" idea of Windows 10. Clearly it is "universally runs nowhere."

                              This is a point that you and I went round and round on. MS I don't think ever intended universal apps to be what you call call universal. They intended them to be runable from any place Windows 10 happens to be.

                              🙂 Eliminating all apps would make that an easier goal.

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                              • nadnerBN
                                nadnerB
                                last edited by

                                Interestingly enough, the page I've been using to check for updates is no longer available... Hmmm

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                                • JoyJ
                                  Joy @nadnerB
                                  last edited by

                                  @nadnerB said:

                                  WUT!?
                                  I've been checking the update site (at least once) every day for the last month.
                                  ...
                                  checking again...
                                  ...
                                  nope. not in AU yet 😞

                                  It will arrive there next year because you're too far from them.

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                                  • nadnerBN
                                    nadnerB @Joy
                                    last edited by

                                    @Joy said:

                                    @nadnerB said:

                                    WUT!?
                                    I've been checking the update site (at least once) every day for the last month.
                                    ...
                                    checking again...
                                    ...
                                    nope. not in AU yet 😞

                                    It will arrive there next year because you're too far from them.

                                    Well, it's here.
                                    I had to download some stupid app called "Upgrade Advisor".

                                    I've been poking the built in "Check for updates" everyday for almost three months". Turns out it's been lying to me for at least the last three days (Since I last opened the upgrade app).

                                    Here commenceth the backups of my crapola.

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                                    • nadnerBN
                                      nadnerB @nadnerB
                                      last edited by

                                      @nadnerB said:

                                      @Joy said:

                                      @nadnerB said:

                                      WUT!?
                                      I've been checking the update site (at least once) every day for the last month.
                                      ...
                                      checking again...
                                      ...
                                      nope. not in AU yet 😞

                                      It will arrive there next year because you're too far from them.

                                      Well, it's here.
                                      I had to download some stupid app called "Upgrade Advisor".

                                      I've been poking the built in "Check for updates" everyday for almost three months". Turns out it's been lying to me for at least the last three days (Since I last opened the upgrade app).

                                      Here commenceth the backups of my crapola.

                                      ok.... wut?
                                      So the app doesn't upgrade the phone. It queues it up in Settings --> Phone Update...
                                      It's downloading... we shall see what happens.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        Paul Thurrott last week on Windows Weekly said that he didn't think the upgrade to Windows Phone 10 was worth it.

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                                        • nadnerBN
                                          nadnerB @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          Paul Thurrott last week on Windows Weekly said that he didn't think the upgrade to Windows Phone 10 was worth it.

                                          Yeah, but I can always roll back.
                                          Haven't hit the install button yet. I might do a bit more research before I poke that.

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                                          • nadnerBN
                                            nadnerB
                                            last edited by

                                            Well, I didn't find anything convincing in the way of holding off.
                                            It's away!

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