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    Ringside Seats to the Apple/FBI Battle

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @MKM8DY
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      @MKM8DY said:

      Apple is expected to defend its position by invoking the First Amendment of the Constitution, where it was established years ago that code is protected as free speech.

      I should be a tech lawyer, I had already stated that without hearing it from any external source 🙂

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        GlennBarley
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        What do you think about this push for a encryption committee?

        http://www.infoworld.com/article/3037470/security/lawmakers-push-for-encryption-commission-to-find-compromise.html

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @GlennBarley
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          @GlennBarley said:

          What do you think about this push for a encryption committee?

          http://www.infoworld.com/article/3037470/security/lawmakers-push-for-encryption-commission-to-find-compromise.html

          Honestly I think it is a farce. It's a binary debate - privacy or not, there isn't a middle ground. Are the citizens subjects of the government or is the government subject to the citizenry. Having a group to produce a compromise is like compromising on the death penalty - no matter what decision is reached, one side wins and one side loses.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Good quote from the article: "We don't require the people who manufacture paper shredders to have a chip that records and scans that document so it's recoverable," he said. "The piece of technology that has destroyed more evidence than any other ... is the flush toilet, and yet we realize the benefits of indoor plumbing to our society outweigh the fact that certain evidence is going to be beyond the government's reach."

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              GlennBarley @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              "We don't require the people who manufacture paper shredders to have a chip that records and scans that document so it's recoverable,"

              Not yet...

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre
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                Next week a new product shows up on amazon "Scan your documents as you shred them! Keep your information safe!

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
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                  I also read an interesting article on how the 5th amendment can be applied to this case also.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                    @JaredBusch said:

                    I also read an interesting article on how the 5th amendment can be applied to this case also.

                    I'd not be surprised.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/02/forget-the-1st-amendment-apple-to-plead-the-5th-in-iphone-crypto-flap/

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                      • MattSpellerM
                        MattSpeller
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                        I'd be on the side of the FBI were it not for all the NSA spying bull that Snowden leaked and setting a precedent that will inevitably be abused.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @MattSpeller
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                          @MattSpeller said:

                          I'd be on the side of the FBI were it not for all the NSA spying bull that Snowden leaked and setting a precedent that will inevitably be abused.

                          Huh - I could never be on the side of the FBI, even if only for what possible hackers could do with the information, let alone the government.

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                          • MattSpellerM
                            MattSpeller @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said:

                            @MattSpeller said:

                            I'd be on the side of the FBI were it not for all the NSA spying bull that Snowden leaked and setting a precedent that will inevitably be abused.

                            Huh - I could never be on the side of the FBI, even if only for what possible hackers could do with the information, let alone the government.

                            Honestly I think "hackers getting a hold of the code" is a remote possibility.

                            I already mentioned my lack of trust in the gov but there's ways to do it safely, this is not some super secret 007 heist.

                            Clarity: Not advocating for it, just pointing out some of the FUD that's circling this debate.

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