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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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      @Breffni-Potter said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @hobbit666 said:

      @Breffni-Potter said:

      One is POE, the other is not.

      That's the only difference I see listed.

      Missed one is white one is black 😄

      Are they both controlled and configured through the Unifi controller??

      No, the Unifi line is its own animal.

      Oh?....

      Yes, the Unifi line is like Meraki, it's all centrally controlled through a controller. And they are all white. The non-Unifi equipment is traditional and managed traditionally.

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      • Deleted74295D
        Deleted74295 Banned
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        https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Wireless/ToughSwitch-Edge-Switch-UniFi-Controller-and-EdgeRouter-UniFi/td-p/1242968

        That's a shame. So to buy into the single pane of glass management, they make you spend a lot more.

        If they supplied a non POE version it would almost be worth it.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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          @Breffni-Potter said:

          That's a shame. So to buy into the single pane of glass management, they make you spend a lot more.

          It requires more. The devices are slower, too. If you look, there are better specs on the non-Unifi gear. There is a reason we don't use the Unifi ourselves, only makes sense at a certain scale and for a certain kind of company. Don't believe that the Unifi do 10GigE, either.

          The Unifi line is also newer.

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          • Deleted74295D
            Deleted74295 Banned
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            Edgeswitch. 48 port lite
            Non-Blocking Throughput: 70 Gbps
            Switching Capacity: 140 Gbps
            Forwarding Rate: 104.16 Mpps

            Unifi Switch 48 port 500W
            Total Non-Blocking Throughput - 70 Gbps
            Switching capacity: 140 Gbps
            Forwarding rate: 104.16 Mpps

            Both have identical speed specs, Am I missing something?

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            • brianlittlejohnB
              brianlittlejohn
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              They are the exact same box minus the POE part of the hardware... the difference will be in the software running on them and features they have for the software.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                Our Edgeswitch has 10GigE

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                • brianlittlejohnB
                  brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller The unifi switch does too. I just went through this debating between the two and went with the edgeswitch just because I would rather have features I didn't use then find something I needed that they haven't put in the unifi switch yet.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @brianlittlejohn
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                    @brianlittlejohn said:

                    @scottalanmiller The unifi switch does too. I just went through this debating between the two and went with the edgeswitch just because I would rather have features I didn't use then find something I needed that they haven't put in the unifi switch yet.

                    If your network was that complex as to need that type of feature, that you don't even know you need now, then why are you even looking at devices like these and not high end enterprise devices?

                    I can totally understand not going with the Unifi stuff because it's more money and includes a feature you don't need (POE), but lack of a feature statement seems weird.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      @brianlittlejohn said:

                      @scottalanmiller The unifi switch does too. I just went through this debating between the two and went with the edgeswitch just because I would rather have features I didn't use then find something I needed that they haven't put in the unifi switch yet.

                      If your network was that complex as to need that type of feature, that you don't even know you need now, then why are you even looking at devices like these and not high end enterprise devices?

                      I can totally understand not going with the Unifi stuff because it's more money and includes a feature you don't need (POE), but lack of a feature statement seems weird.

                      What would a high end switch over in value there?

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                      • brianlittlejohnB
                        brianlittlejohn @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender The Unifi Switch probably did everything I needed, I just like to have flexibility in case I decide to change things on the network in the future and if I can do it for a cheaper cost, my as well.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @brianlittlejohn said:

                          @scottalanmiller The unifi switch does too. I just went through this debating between the two and went with the edgeswitch just because I would rather have features I didn't use then find something I needed that they haven't put in the unifi switch yet.

                          If your network was that complex as to need that type of feature, that you don't even know you need now, then why are you even looking at devices like these and not high end enterprise devices?

                          I can totally understand not going with the Unifi stuff because it's more money and includes a feature you don't need (POE), but lack of a feature statement seems weird.

                          What would a high end switch over in value there?

                          That was my point. I've definitely been caught in the "hey there's some cool new feature that looks neat - I gotta have it" only once I get it it's useless for me, and it was money wasted.
                          @brianlittlejohn said

                          I would rather have features I didn't use then find something I needed that they haven't put in the unifi switch yet.

                          I didn't think that made sense as the reason for sticking with Edgeswitches. You (Scott) have said for years, buy for today, not for tomorrow unless you know with full certainty that you will do X tomorrow, otherwise it's more often a waste than just having to buy again when that time really comes that you need X.

                          Getting back to my mentioning Enterprise stuff, I was going a bit over the top - If you don't want the Unifi because it could be missing something down the road, then why not just buy the best, because it's likely that the EdgeSwitch will be missing something the Enterprise stuff will have 😉

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @brianlittlejohn
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                            @brianlittlejohn said:

                            @Dashrender The Unifi Switch probably did everything I needed, I just like to have flexibility in case I decide to change things on the network in the future and if I can do it for a cheaper cost, my as well.

                            I agree with cheaper cost - though, having the prebuilt graphs that come in the controller software that Unifi has is pretty nice.

                            I'm assuming if you enable logging/SNTP that you could get another solution to provide similar graphs, but that's just one more thing to setup and manage. Of course if you have that logging/SNTP for other things, adding the switches it it, probably isn't that big of a deal.

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                            • Deleted74295D
                              Deleted74295 Banned
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                              So who has used the EdgeSwitches in anger in production, any quirks/oddities?

                              Do they insist on using Java on the client machines like HP switches to manage them?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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                                @Breffni-Potter said:

                                So who has used the EdgeSwitches in anger in production, any quirks/oddities?

                                Do they insist on using Java on the client machines like HP switches to manage them?

                                In anger?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  And the Lord sayeth to the lowly shephard upon the field, thou shalt not take the switch in anger upon thine network.

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                                  • Deleted74295D
                                    Deleted74295 Banned
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                                    No one's heard that phrase? 🙂

                                    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Anger&defid=597320

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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                                      @Breffni-Potter said:

                                      No one's heard that phrase? 🙂

                                      http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Anger&defid=597320

                                      Nope, never heard it.

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                                      • Deleted74295D
                                        Deleted74295 Banned
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                                        Must be just on this side of the pond. It's used all the time.

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                                        • hobbit666H
                                          hobbit666
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                                          I'm interested in knowing who uses these in production, likes them and views them as "Enterprise" class. As I've seen lots of people comment they good for AP's and SMB but wouldn't consider them enterprise class like HP/Cisco

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @hobbit666
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                                            @hobbit666 said:

                                            I'm interested in knowing who uses these in production, likes them and views them as "Enterprise" class. As I've seen lots of people comment they good for AP's and SMB but wouldn't consider them enterprise class like HP/Cisco

                                            Well, I don't consider them like Cisco. Definitely better than that.

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