Telegram chat program - and so much more
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@johnhooks said:
@scottalanmiller said:
But if we use Google as the example... the only service that makes phone numbers viable is US only and from the same vendor all the same protection is available for email, but globally.
But now you have the same problem you stated here:
That's not "bad", but also means we just reverted to a Google central system
I agree, my point was that if Google Voice was the only solution to the phone number problem, it means email is the better choice based on the Google offerings alone. That anyone else offers email makes it that much more robust. My point was only that using Google as the reason that phone numbers were viable meant that phone numbers were even less viable than originally thought.
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This definitely should've been web based, classic applications are fast approaching Egyptian artefact status.
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@tonyshowoff said:
This definitely should've been web based, classic applications are fast approaching Egyptian artefact status.
It is!! There is a web option too, I'm just not using it.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@tonyshowoff said:
This definitely should've been web based, classic applications are fast approaching Egyptian artefact status.
It is!! There is a web option too, I'm just not using it.
I partially withdraw my criticism and add that nothing should be non-web based or have classic interfaces. You gotta be stubborn about something, I'm choosing this.
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It has a generic web client and one for Chrome that supposedly integrates better for ChromeOS users.
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Anyone with a Chromebook handy to test how it works there?
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@tonyshowoff said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@tonyshowoff said:
This definitely should've been web based, classic applications are fast approaching Egyptian artefact status.
It is!! There is a web option too, I'm just not using it.
I partially withdraw my criticism and add that nothing should be non-web based or have classic interfaces. You gotta be stubborn about something, I'm choosing this.
It has a Linux-CLI interface, too.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Anyone with a Chromebook handy to test how it works there?
The Chrome app works well, but I haven't tried the web interface.
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Haha, anyone noticed how quiet it is in here since everyone is on Telegram?
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@johnhooks said:
Haha, anyone noticed how quiet it is in here since everyone is on Telegram?
Yeah, that's a concern. It can rapidly do real damage the community in many says having a channel like this. It is the same as having a private group with is downright evil. And it puts the technical knowledge where it can't be seen. It's generally bad all around.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@johnhooks said:
Haha, anyone noticed how quiet it is in here since everyone is on Telegram?
Yeah, that's a concern. It can rapidly do real damage the community in many says having a channel like this. It is the same as having a private group with is downright evil. And it puts the technical knowledge where it can't be seen. It's generally bad all around.
Ya the private chat replacement for on here is good, but the community replacement isn't.
It's nice because you can have attachments with your personal chats, and a longer history.
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@johnhooks said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@johnhooks said:
Haha, anyone noticed how quiet it is in here since everyone is on Telegram?
Yeah, that's a concern. It can rapidly do real damage the community in many says having a channel like this. It is the same as having a private group with is downright evil. And it puts the technical knowledge where it can't be seen. It's generally bad all around.
Ya the private chat replacement for on here is good, but the community replacement isn't.
It's nice because you can have attachments with your personal chats, and a longer history.
Yeah, we need to intentionally limit the use of the chat as much as possible. It's very distracting, too.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Yeah, we need to intentionally limit the use of the chat as much as possible. It's very distracting, too.
Jeeze, definitely, some guy with glasses and a smug look keeps messaging me
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i agree that questions and such need to be here, but there's a lot of just chatter that is better served on the chat channel, written one and forgotten.. but it's a fine line that's for sure.
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@Dashrender said:
there's a lot of just chatter that is better served on the chat channel, written one and forgotten..
Such as the what are you doing right now topic...
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@anonymous said:
That link does weird things here. Does that take you to the existing ML group?
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@anonymous said:
@Dashrender said:
there's a lot of just chatter that is better served on the chat channel, written one and forgotten..
Such as the what are you doing right now topic...
Why is that better in the chat than on the thread?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@anonymous said:
@Dashrender said:
there's a lot of just chatter that is better served on the chat channel, written one and forgotten..
Such as the what are you doing right now topic...
Why is that better in the chat than on the thread?
Not only that, but good and useful conversation also gets lost in chats too all the time. It's better to filter out the bad than to lose all the good forever.
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@tonyshowoff said:
Not only that, but good and useful conversation also gets lost in chats too all the time. It's better to filter out the bad than to lose all the good forever.
Yup, already tons of good technical information and discussion lost because of just messing around with it for one day. Telegram is a neat platform but it is 100% clear why a technical community should not have a channel like IRC or such for offline chatting. It also runs the risk of become the private groups that we are totally opposed to. It will almost instantly become a place to talk about people that are not around, it's just the nature of a limited chat.
