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    SAN LUNs Do Not Act Like NAS Shares

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Same with any products, really. Outdated information whether by time or product version is always confusing. Things change over time. 2012 is a generation ago in IT time.

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      • ntoxicatorN
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        Great info... I've been using Citrix XenServer since around 2012. The Free version. Had the Enterprise version with HA and other features in the small datacenter I helped manage. it was $$$$$$$$$$$$$ along with using Citrix XenApp $$$$$$$

        Probably why I had the bad taste in my mouth.. better feeling now they passed it to Linux foundation.

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        • scottalanmillerS
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          For most of a decade, people tried to promote KVM as open source because Xen wasn't exactly open for the first couples years back in like 2003. That legacy lasted for something like five times the length of the software actually not being open. Once someone had written it down, everyone just kept repeating it.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said:

            For most of a decade, people tried to promote KVM as open source because Xen wasn't exactly open for the first couples years back in like 2003. That legacy lasted for something like five times the length of the software actually not being open. Once someone had written it down, everyone just kept repeating it.

            This is like trying to kill off RAID 5.

            And now that RAID 5 is viable again with SSDs, we're in even a worst state of what is happening 😉

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
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              @ntoxicator said:

              Probably why I had the bad taste in my mouth.. better feeling now they passed it to Linux foundation.

              Oh yeah, back in 2012 we recommended XCP, not XenServer, for exactly these reasons. XCP was the reference open source, free distro of Xen then. But since that time XenServer was donated to Linux Foundation just as Xen was. So now all three are from the LF and XCP and XS have been merged into a single product.

              Xen has always been really awesome. And there have always been a few good distros of it. XenServer only recently became a good one, it was total garbage before the LF took it over and merged it with XCP.

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              • ntoxicatorN
                ntoxicator
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                So what you're saying is.... I should definately upgrade a node to 6.5!? lol.

                next weekend I'm just going to schedule downtime and upgrade this one node to XenServer 6.1 (From 6.0)

                Just read more information on site and realized that the LACP bond is not 100% true and working as was not fully supported until 6.1

                I had previous nodes running 6.1 and those appeared to have less 'issues' and also seemed faster.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @ntoxicator
                  last edited by coliver

                  @ntoxicator said:

                  So what you're saying is.... I should definately upgrade a node to 6.5!? lol.

                  next weekend I'm just going to schedule downtime and upgrade this one node to XenServer 6.1 (From 6.0)

                  Just read more information on site and realized that the LACP bond is not 100% true and working as was not fully supported until 6.1

                  I had previous nodes running 6.1 and those appeared to have less 'issues' and also seemed faster.

                  6.2 was the first LF version, I think. You need to update to atleast that. If not go the entire way to 6.5 just make sure you have decent backups.

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                  • ntoxicatorN
                    ntoxicator
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                    I'll be cautious route and upgrade to 6.1 first. and All is well, I'll proceed to 6.2. Essentially incremental updates

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @ntoxicator
                      last edited by coliver

                      @ntoxicator said:

                      I'll be cautious route and upgrade to 6.1 first. and All is well, I'll proceed to 6.2. Essentially incremental updates

                      You'll need to be on 6.2 before you can upgrade to 6.5 anyway so that is a good idea. Speaking of... I really need to update to 6.5...

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
                        last edited by

                        @ntoxicator said:

                        So what you're saying is.... I should definately upgrade a node to 6.5!? lol.

                        next weekend I'm just going to schedule downtime and upgrade this one node to XenServer 6.1 (From 6.0)

                        Just read more information on site and realized that the LACP bond is not 100% true and working as was not fully supported until 6.1

                        I had previous nodes running 6.1 and those appeared to have less 'issues' and also seemed faster.

                        XS was pretty crap in the Citrix era.

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                        • ntoxicatorN
                          ntoxicator
                          last edited by ntoxicator

                          I'll upgrade to 6.1 after holiday when i return from small vacation im taking away from office. Once on 6.1, I'll incremental upgrade to 6.2. from there.. 6.5

                          hopeful it will go smooth. see what happens

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Holiday meaning Christmas?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Going somewhere cool for vacation?

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                              • ntoxicatorN
                                ntoxicator
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                                ehhh. if you mean cool and in 'cold'.. haha. Going to upstate NY to visit family for Christmas. First Christmas with them in 5 years

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
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                                  @ntoxicator said:

                                  ehhh. if you mean cool and in 'cold'.. haha. Going to upstate NY to visit family for Christmas. First Christmas with them in 5 years

                                  Really? More of us from Upstate NY than any other region here in the community. Where are you normally based and where in Upstate are you headed?

                                  This community's annual conference is being held in Rochester in September!!

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                                  • ntoxicatorN
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                                    I grew up in Syracuse area (well, outside in small community). Flying into Rochester (cheapest this year) and then driving back towards Syracuse.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
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                                      @ntoxicator said:

                                      I grew up in Syracuse area (well, outside in small community). Flying into Rochester (cheapest this year) and then driving back towards Syracuse.

                                      I used to be on the board for the oversight of IT and CS programs at OCC in Syracuse. My wife and I met when we both lived in Ithaca.

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                                      • ntoxicatorN
                                        ntoxicator
                                        last edited by ntoxicator

                                        Very cool! 🙂 Small world! Glad to hear the community here has others from upstate NY

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