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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by scottalanmiller

      Assuming both nodes in a two node setup are the same. Is it better to split the VM load between the servers, meaning Starwind has to replicate in both directions, or is it better to run them all from a single host replicating in one direction?

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre
        last edited by

        To me, it would make more sense to split up the load between the two servers.

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        • coliverC
          coliver @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said:

          Assuming both nodes in a two node setup are the same. Is it better to split the VM load between the servers, meaning Starwind has to replicate in both directions, or is it better to run them all from a single host replicating in one direction?

          Are they on the same site? What is the end goal? Would it make more sense to do two-way replication and just have the hypervisor setup in a cluster automatically handle the resource provisioning?

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          • mlnewsM
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            Pinging @KOOLER

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            • KOOLERK
              KOOLER Vendor @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said:

              Assuming both nodes in a two node setup are the same. Is it better to split the VM load between the servers, meaning Starwind has to replicate in both directions, or is it better to run them all from a single host replicating in one direction?

              You create two virtual LUNs and you split your VMs between two hosts having own virtual LUN replicated to "shadow" one on a partner. Within this scenario there's minimal "fight" for any of LUNs ownership so performance is better.

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                @mlnews said:

                Pinging @KOOLER

                Replied! Thank you for brining me in 🙂

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @coliver
                  last edited by

                  @coliver said:

                  Are they on the same site? What is the end goal? Would it make more sense to do two-way replication and just have the hypervisor setup in a cluster automatically handle the resource provisioning?

                  This question of mine came out of the discussion that Hubtech stated last week. Assuming a design where the two hosts (local to each other) are designed for failover, I was curious if it was better to have all VMs running on a single host or split.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @KOOLER
                    last edited by

                    @KOOLER said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    Assuming both nodes in a two node setup are the same. Is it better to split the VM load between the servers, meaning Starwind has to replicate in both directions, or is it better to run them all from a single host replicating in one direction?

                    You create two virtual LUNs and you split your VMs between two hosts having own virtual LUN replicated to "shadow" one on a partner. Within this scenario there's minimal "fight" for any of LUNs ownership so performance is better.

                    How do you recommend the setup of the underlying disk? Would it be a One Big RAID 10? or two smaller RAID 10s?

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
                      last edited by Dashrender

                      Also, since I've never set something like this up before, considering it's only a two node setup, it is best to skip the network switch for the replication ports between hosts?

                      And is the recommendation for ports two 10 Gb ports? or is something like 2-4 8 Gb ports normally good enough? (per server of course)

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @coliver said:

                        Are they on the same site? What is the end goal? Would it make more sense to do two-way replication and just have the hypervisor setup in a cluster automatically handle the resource provisioning?

                        This question of mine came out of the discussion that Hubtech stated last week. Assuming a design where the two hosts (local to each other) are designed for failover, I was curious if it was better to have all VMs running on a single host or split.

                        Split for performance and minimal impact during an "event." All on one for licensing. One more spot that Windows licensing often makes for a small, but impactful problem that makes Linux that much more beneficial in a case like this.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said:

                          How do you recommend the setup of the underlying disk? Would it be a One Big RAID 10? or two smaller RAID 10s?

                          Typically RAID 6 or even RAID 0. Remember that there is Network RAID 1 going on. RAID 10 is certainly an option, but far less common given the RAID 1 that exists on top.

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                          • dafyreD
                            dafyre
                            last edited by

                            I prefer to err on the side of caution... Knowing that a drive can blow out for any reason at all... I'd do at least RAID 6 on the hosts themselves and let Starwind handle the Network RAID 1.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              I generally would do the same. Needing to rebuild a full node is a pain that I would like to avoid.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                How do you recommend the setup of the underlying disk? Would it be a One Big RAID 10? or two smaller RAID 10s?

                                Typically RAID 6 or even RAID 0. Remember that there is Network RAID 1 going on. RAID 10 is certainly an option, but far less common given the RAID 1 that exists on top.

                                Wow, really? even considering the write penalties? AND the fact that you're mirroring to another server?

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  I can see doing RAID 6 if you can afford the performance penalty.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    How do you recommend the setup of the underlying disk? Would it be a One Big RAID 10? or two smaller RAID 10s?

                                    Typically RAID 6 or even RAID 0. Remember that there is Network RAID 1 going on. RAID 10 is certainly an option, but far less common given the RAID 1 that exists on top.

                                    Wow, really? even considering the write penalties? AND the fact that you're mirroring to another server?

                                    You would think just RAID 0? Remember that with the mirroring you are already adding a lot of write penalty, the RAID 6 penalty probably will not be noticed.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      I can see doing RAID 6 if you can afford the performance penalty.

                                      Which you would assume that you can if you can wait for a distant node to write as well.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        I can see doing RAID 6 if you can afford the performance penalty.

                                        Which you would assume that you can if you can wait for a distant node to write as well.

                                        By distant, you mean local, as in the same rack?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          I can see doing RAID 6 if you can afford the performance penalty.

                                          Which you would assume that you can if you can wait for a distant node to write as well.

                                          By distant, you mean local, as in the same rack?

                                          Yes, distant meaning outside of the chassis connected over a slow Ethernet link.

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