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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @AVI-NetworkGuy
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      @AVI-NetworkGuy said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      In many cases I actually feel like people are shoving garbage into my hands as I walk around. I never ask for it, people insist that I take it. It is the rare exception that I am like "oh, can I have one of those?"

      Like a giant block of Limburger cheese? 😉

      Ugh, don't even get me started.

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      • Minion QueenM
        Minion Queen Banned @AVI-NetworkGuy
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        @AVI-NetworkGuy said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        In many cases I actually feel like people are shoving garbage into my hands as I walk around. I never ask for it, people insist that I take it. It is the rare exception that I am like "oh, can I have one of those?"

        Like a giant block of Limburger cheese? 😉

        Ugh.... NEVER happening at MangoCon. Cheese hand outs are forbidden!

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
          last edited by

          @Minion-Queen said:

          @AVI-NetworkGuy said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          In many cases I actually feel like people are shoving garbage into my hands as I walk around. I never ask for it, people insist that I take it. It is the rare exception that I am like "oh, can I have one of those?"

          Like a giant block of Limburger cheese? 😉

          Ugh.... NEVER happening at MangoCon. Cheese hand outs are forbidden!

          You need a written policy.

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          • IRJI
            IRJ
            last edited by

            I also think this a moot point. You have a better chance hitting a long range target with a rifle vs a shotgun. IMO small events should focus on the meat, not the sides dishes.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @IRJ
              last edited by

              @IRJ said:

              I also think this a moot point. You have a better chance hitting a long range target with a rifle vs a shotgun. IMO small events should focus on the meat, not the sides dishes.

              You'd be surprised how much it is the side dishes that attract people.

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              • Minion QueenM
                Minion Queen Banned
                last edited by

                The thing that I have ran into is to get any Vendors to participate and actually spend money to be there they want to see at least 150 people there to bother.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
                  last edited by

                  @Minion-Queen said:

                  The thing that I have ran into is to get any Vendors to participate and actually spend money to be there they want to see at least 150 people there to bother.

                  Are you saying that people come for the swag?

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                  • IRJI
                    IRJ @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @IRJ said:

                    I also think this a moot point. You have a better chance hitting a long range target with a rifle vs a shotgun. IMO small events should focus on the meat, not the sides dishes.

                    You'd be surprised how much it is the side dishes that attract people.

                    Do those type of people truly create value? As you mentioned earlier they punk out vendors for free swag, and rarely look for useful IT information. They rarely make decisions for their business and are just there for the party.

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                    • IRJI
                      IRJ
                      last edited by

                      20 people that learn valuable IT skills may be better than a shotgun approach for 50 people just grabbing free stuff and not learning much. You won't be able to compete with other conferences with swag or extras. It's better to do one thing really good, then fall short in 5 different areas.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @IRJ
                        last edited by

                        @IRJ said:

                        20 people that learn valuable IT skills may be better than a shotgun approach for 50 people just grabbing free stuff and not learning much. You won't be able to compete with other conferences with swag or extras. It's better to do one thing really good, then fall short in 5 different areas.

                        But, only if it happens at all.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @IRJ
                          last edited by

                          @IRJ said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @IRJ said:

                          I also think this a moot point. You have a better chance hitting a long range target with a rifle vs a shotgun. IMO small events should focus on the meat, not the sides dishes.

                          You'd be surprised how much it is the side dishes that attract people.

                          Do those type of people truly create value? As you mentioned earlier they punk out vendors for free swag, and rarely look for useful IT information. They rarely make decisions for their business and are just there for the party.

                          If the value is "being able to have a conference."

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                          • IRJI
                            IRJ @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @IRJ said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @IRJ said:

                            I also think this a moot point. You have a better chance hitting a long range target with a rifle vs a shotgun. IMO small events should focus on the meat, not the sides dishes.

                            You'd be surprised how much it is the side dishes that attract people.

                            Do those type of people truly create value? As you mentioned earlier they punk out vendors for free swag, and rarely look for useful IT information. They rarely make decisions for their business and are just there for the party.

                            If the value is "being able to have a conference."

                            Maybe IT training is better than a "conference"

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                            • Minion QueenM
                              Minion Queen Banned
                              last edited by

                              Having the Vendor swag isn't even part of it really. It's the having them pay for a place to have it.... and to keep hotel room costs down for all of you and and and and....

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                              • IRJI
                                IRJ @Minion Queen
                                last edited by

                                @Minion-Queen said:

                                Having the Vendor swag isn't even part of it really. It's the having them pay for a place to have it.... and to keep hotel room costs down for all of you and and and and....

                                I understand that, but instead of a basic sales pitch these vendors could offer more technical workshops. We have some real brainiacs here on ML. I am more interested in hearing from them then getting a tshirt that doesn't fit me or a USB drive that sits in my junk drawer.

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                                • Minion QueenM
                                  Minion Queen Banned
                                  last edited by

                                  THERE WILL BE NO SALES PITCHES for sessions. What they do at their tables will be I am sure but.... the whole point of all of this is DEEP dive training

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @IRJ
                                    last edited by

                                    @IRJ said:

                                    @Minion-Queen said:

                                    Having the Vendor swag isn't even part of it really. It's the having them pay for a place to have it.... and to keep hotel room costs down for all of you and and and and....

                                    I understand that, but instead of a basic sales pitch these vendors could offer more technical workshops. We have some real brainiacs here on ML. I am more interested in hearing from them then getting a tshirt that doesn't fit me or a USB drive that sits in my junk drawer.

                                    I think some ML + vendor sessions would work well. For example, a relatively light, but interesting, session on building a full company architecture using Vendor 1 + Vendor 2 + Vendor 3 together and see how they three could work together in a way that people probably never pictured. Learning how to leverage different concepts in a way that supports sponsoring vendors while still being conceptually and technical agnostic just using those vendors as examples.

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @IRJ said:

                                      @Minion-Queen said:

                                      Having the Vendor swag isn't even part of it really. It's the having them pay for a place to have it.... and to keep hotel room costs down for all of you and and and and....

                                      I understand that, but instead of a basic sales pitch these vendors could offer more technical workshops. We have some real brainiacs here on ML. I am more interested in hearing from them then getting a tshirt that doesn't fit me or a USB drive that sits in my junk drawer.

                                      I think some ML + vendor sessions would work well. For example, a relatively light, but interesting, session on building a full company architecture using Vendor 1 + Vendor 2 + Vendor 3 together and see how they three could work together in a way that people probably never pictured. Learning how to leverage different concepts in a way that supports sponsoring vendors while still being conceptually and technical agnostic just using those vendors as examples.

                                      I would love to see something like this from Scale.

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                                      • IRJI
                                        IRJ @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @IRJ said:

                                        @Minion-Queen said:

                                        Having the Vendor swag isn't even part of it really. It's the having them pay for a place to have it.... and to keep hotel room costs down for all of you and and and and....

                                        I understand that, but instead of a basic sales pitch these vendors could offer more technical workshops. We have some real brainiacs here on ML. I am more interested in hearing from them then getting a tshirt that doesn't fit me or a USB drive that sits in my junk drawer.

                                        I think some ML + vendor sessions would work well. For example, a relatively light, but interesting, session on building a full company architecture using Vendor 1 + Vendor 2 + Vendor 3 together and see how they three could work together in a way that people probably never pictured. Learning how to leverage different concepts in a way that supports sponsoring vendors while still being conceptually and technical agnostic just using those vendors as examples.

                                        👍

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          @coliver said:

                                          I would love to see something like this from Scale.

                                          They would be a great example. Easy one to get a live demo system to use too. Using someone like that I think it would be neat to have one person giving a presentation while at the same time someone else actually runs through a project going on on the big screen behind them so that, when finished, some awesome setup is completed and up and running based on what is being discussed live.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            And then, when finished, have a reference whitepaper PDF to hand out that runs through the project so that no one needs to take notes or pay really close attention during the talk.

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