@Carnival-Boy said:

But it's about doing your own cost-benefit analysis. It's too simplistic to say you should never run legacy applications.

Of course, there are always times that legacy applications need to be run. But there are limits too. ASP as a platform has been legacy for a decade and a half. That's a long time. It has a pending end date for when it may not be available any longer in any capacity. It presents platform level risk which may prove to not matter, but may prove to be extremely limiting in the future - that's the nature of risk, we don't know what will happen with hardware and software down the road. But it is technical debt building up in a platform that is nearly all of the way through its "trailing off support" timeframe.

It's fine to have legacy apps. But it is also important to identify when a legacy app is becoming too legacy. In the OP's case, ASP created support and hosting risk in addition to normal concerns. Those were probably types of risk that were not considered in the past. Any business running ASP is constrained if they decide that they want to go hosted, for example. They might not ever decide to do that, but there is technical debt potentially making that decision for them, as well.

Any ongoing support of an ASP legacy app means that investment is being put into the old system. Maybe that is trivial, maybe it is major. Technical debt is a hidden cost. Money goes into keeping the old system running instead of being implemented in a new system. The effort to support the old could offset the effort to replace it.

Aww.. I thought someone reached out to them and said "hey we are talking about you over at ML, why not stick your head in?"

@thanksajdotcom said:

You always have the weirdest issues...

That's because he only reports the issues he can't resolve.
😉

Even Google admits, they don't make enough, or market these for the general public. Something like 80% of the ones they build stay internal to Google. That all being said, I would LOVE to have one. They are not trying to compete with Apple laptops, so you can't really compare them.

@Carnival-Boy Here if you have questions about similarities/differences. Just ping me or email. [email protected]

@PackMatt73 said:

@thanksajdotcom GREAT to hear! I'll keep you in the loop if there is more stuff like that

Awesome, thanks!

@scottalanmiller said:

Oh, if on CentOS 5 you are out of luck. Pertino has always been known to not support libraries that far back and because it is so old they have no intention of making it work on a system so old. Sorry, that's just how that works. We have one database server that can't upgrade from CentOS 5 right now and it is left without Pertino 😞

Ah ok. Yeah, they're still using CentOS 5, and I have the latest Unitrends. Dang it...

@scottalanmiller said:

@thanksajdotcom said:

I know Ecuador and New York are in the same time zone. My cousin lived in Ecuador for over a decade, so that's how I know that...

We should start another thread as we've completely derailed BUT.... how did he like it? I'm planning on being in Panama over the summer and Argentina in January. Can't wait to spend some time in Central and South America.

First off, she. Lol And she loved it. My cousin is by far one of the most interesting people I've ever even heard of. She's lived in Ecuador, Cambodia, and now is in China with her new husband. She has friends on pretty much every continent, and I mean close friends. Her passport is insane with stamps from every country you can imagine.

Ok, I was able to get it. I had to reboot the VM, despite I had just rebooted it, and refresh the page. Oh well...

Perhaps accounts must be at 0 to start posting?
Alternatively, they could have an "insert coin" message flashing on their screen.

Just search view all site content using your fav search site and you should see several SP sites site contents

They run with surprisingly old CPU's

http://ark.intel.com/products/40201/Intel-Xeon-Processor-L5520-8M-Cache-2_26-GHz-5_86-GTs-Intel-QPI

Thanks @amytabor - That seemed to have worked. Now I have a long list of commands,.. of which to de-cypher.
There are some reports I wish to setup, and have available for later use.

And how to save that information to Excel or other forms....

@coliver said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@thecreativeone91 said:

The only thing some people don't like is the official mobile app is paid. There are alternatives. But in a company environment it might be better to pay for the server and have the mobile client be free.

I have the mobile app. I could swear that it was free. Maybe I paid for it though.

Yep, the OwnCloud app has always cost money from what I can tell. Not really a bad deal considering the functionality.

Yeah but it complicates the matter for business use, even on company owned devices. Even more so if it's BYOD. Paying for the server side would just make it simpler. Granted Seafile is free for both the server and all clients.

@thecreativeone91 said:

@thanksajdotcom said:

@thecreativeone91 said:

@thanksajdotcom said:

However, if I can get something for free instead of paying for it, I will not apologize for that.

That's what people I know who are on welfare say....

Some people who are on welfare deserve to be. Many don't but don't tear down those who have a legitimate right to it because of those who don't.

No one deserves to be on it. it's it's only an opportunity for them to get back on their feet. No one is entitled to get free money. You might say they deserve to get a better paying job so they don't need to be on it.

I can see where you're coming from, but the program is there for a purpose. The purpose may be good, but how people abuse the system is not. Again, I'm sure there are plenty of people who have taken advantage of welfare and then been successful at getting back on their feet. Like a kitchen knife, it can be used to make delicious food, or as the weapon of choice of a serial killer. The knife is just a tool. Don't fix the tool, fix how people use it.

You can turn any website into an "app button" on your iPhone too so you don't need to open a browser or navigate. Pretty handy for a few sites, like this one, that I go to constantly.

and now it works! Thanks everyone!

@nadnerB said:

@thanksajdotcom said:

For @nadnerB , what htop looks like:
upload-35672b65-fea1-4909-9b50-3aa99b1b2608

Ah ha. That looks like what I want. Thanks 🙂

No problem

So, @JaredBusch... what did you end up doing?

Here is a free one.. It seems pretty basic, but it will get you started.

https://www.udemy.com/introduction-to-the-world-of-cisco-for-complete-beginners/?dtcode=iUUkXWi2xg1R