Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II
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@KOOLER said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
Can't say enough positive stuff about getting an OBD2 reader, they're freaking fantastic.
I drive my poor car so freaking hard and I've had a bad misfire when it gets up to temp that no one has been able to diagnose. In less than 24h owning this widget I discovered it was misfiring on all 4 cylinders when it got hot on a low tank of gas. My theory is that the turbo is boiling the gas return line and it's heating up the tank. When the fuel pump goes to work it's not sending enough pressure (because hot gas / insufficient lube in the pump (gas lubes the pump)).
TL;DR epic little widget.
Throw in some wideband O2 sensor and gas pressure gauge and you'll know for sure. For me what you say sound like fuel pump issues.
Indeed it is the fuel pump. Glorious $1250 inc labor fuel pump.
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@MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@KOOLER said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
Can't say enough positive stuff about getting an OBD2 reader, they're freaking fantastic.
I drive my poor car so freaking hard and I've had a bad misfire when it gets up to temp that no one has been able to diagnose. In less than 24h owning this widget I discovered it was misfiring on all 4 cylinders when it got hot on a low tank of gas. My theory is that the turbo is boiling the gas return line and it's heating up the tank. When the fuel pump goes to work it's not sending enough pressure (because hot gas / insufficient lube in the pump (gas lubes the pump)).
TL;DR epic little widget.
Throw in some wideband O2 sensor and gas pressure gauge and you'll know for sure. For me what you say sound like fuel pump issues.
Indeed it is the fuel pump. Glorious $1250 inc labor fuel pump.
WTF!? $1250 for a fuel pump? Do you have a rocket?
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That is more than it would cost to replace the entire motor or transmission in my Jeep lol.
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@IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@KOOLER said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
Can't say enough positive stuff about getting an OBD2 reader, they're freaking fantastic.
I drive my poor car so freaking hard and I've had a bad misfire when it gets up to temp that no one has been able to diagnose. In less than 24h owning this widget I discovered it was misfiring on all 4 cylinders when it got hot on a low tank of gas. My theory is that the turbo is boiling the gas return line and it's heating up the tank. When the fuel pump goes to work it's not sending enough pressure (because hot gas / insufficient lube in the pump (gas lubes the pump)).
TL;DR epic little widget.
Throw in some wideband O2 sensor and gas pressure gauge and you'll know for sure. For me what you say sound like fuel pump issues.
Indeed it is the fuel pump. Glorious $1250 inc labor fuel pump.
WTF!? $1250 for a fuel pump? Do you have a rocket?
Maybe it's a scramjet.
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@scottalanmiller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@KOOLER said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
Can't say enough positive stuff about getting an OBD2 reader, they're freaking fantastic.
I drive my poor car so freaking hard and I've had a bad misfire when it gets up to temp that no one has been able to diagnose. In less than 24h owning this widget I discovered it was misfiring on all 4 cylinders when it got hot on a low tank of gas. My theory is that the turbo is boiling the gas return line and it's heating up the tank. When the fuel pump goes to work it's not sending enough pressure (because hot gas / insufficient lube in the pump (gas lubes the pump)).
TL;DR epic little widget.
Throw in some wideband O2 sensor and gas pressure gauge and you'll know for sure. For me what you say sound like fuel pump issues.
Indeed it is the fuel pump. Glorious $1250 inc labor fuel pump.
WTF!? $1250 for a fuel pump? Do you have a rocket?
Maybe it's a scramjet.
Yeah it just sounds outrageous to me. Worst case scenario on a fuel pump, you are dropping the fuel tank. At a well equipped mechanic shop I could maybe see them squeezing 3 hours labor out of a worse case scenario fuel pump install.
8/10 times you dont have to drop the tank.
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@IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@scottalanmiller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@KOOLER said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
Can't say enough positive stuff about getting an OBD2 reader, they're freaking fantastic.
I drive my poor car so freaking hard and I've had a bad misfire when it gets up to temp that no one has been able to diagnose. In less than 24h owning this widget I discovered it was misfiring on all 4 cylinders when it got hot on a low tank of gas. My theory is that the turbo is boiling the gas return line and it's heating up the tank. When the fuel pump goes to work it's not sending enough pressure (because hot gas / insufficient lube in the pump (gas lubes the pump)).
TL;DR epic little widget.
Throw in some wideband O2 sensor and gas pressure gauge and you'll know for sure. For me what you say sound like fuel pump issues.
Indeed it is the fuel pump. Glorious $1250 inc labor fuel pump.
WTF!? $1250 for a fuel pump? Do you have a rocket?
Maybe it's a scramjet.
Yeah it just sounds outrageous to me. Worst case scenario on a fuel pump, you are dropping the fuel tank. At a well equipped mechanic shop I could maybe see them squeezing 3 hours labor out of a worse case scenario fuel pump install.
If it's like my wife's jeep, it could be because of the module. The pump replacement was like $400 including labor, but if the module needed replaced it was like $800-900 (not including the pump). And they couldn't tell you which one it was until they replaced one and it didn't fix it. The codes they get are too generic. So you could luck out and they could replace the correct one, or you could be in the hole for a ton of money.
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@johnhooks said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@scottalanmiller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@KOOLER said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
Can't say enough positive stuff about getting an OBD2 reader, they're freaking fantastic.
I drive my poor car so freaking hard and I've had a bad misfire when it gets up to temp that no one has been able to diagnose. In less than 24h owning this widget I discovered it was misfiring on all 4 cylinders when it got hot on a low tank of gas. My theory is that the turbo is boiling the gas return line and it's heating up the tank. When the fuel pump goes to work it's not sending enough pressure (because hot gas / insufficient lube in the pump (gas lubes the pump)).
TL;DR epic little widget.
Throw in some wideband O2 sensor and gas pressure gauge and you'll know for sure. For me what you say sound like fuel pump issues.
Indeed it is the fuel pump. Glorious $1250 inc labor fuel pump.
WTF!? $1250 for a fuel pump? Do you have a rocket?
Maybe it's a scramjet.
Yeah it just sounds outrageous to me. Worst case scenario on a fuel pump, you are dropping the fuel tank. At a well equipped mechanic shop I could maybe see them squeezing 3 hours labor out of a worse case scenario fuel pump install.
If it's like my wife's jeep, it could be because of the module. The pump replacement was like $400 including labor, but if the module needed replaced it was like $800-900 (not including the pump). And they couldn't tell you which one it was until they replaced one and it didn't fix it. The codes they get are too generic. So you could luck out and they could replace the correct one, or you could be in the hole for a ton of money.
If the module was bad, then the pump wasn't really bad so they misdiagnosed it and made you pay for it. Also modules just like any part are marked up 2 to 3 times the price the shop pays for them. I've worked in the automotive industry and it's pretty sickening. I used to see this all the time.
An example would be like this
Fuel Module
Mechanic - $800
Advance Autoparts - $350
Amazon or wholesale - $200-250 -
@IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@johnhooks said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@scottalanmiller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@KOOLER said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
Can't say enough positive stuff about getting an OBD2 reader, they're freaking fantastic.
I drive my poor car so freaking hard and I've had a bad misfire when it gets up to temp that no one has been able to diagnose. In less than 24h owning this widget I discovered it was misfiring on all 4 cylinders when it got hot on a low tank of gas. My theory is that the turbo is boiling the gas return line and it's heating up the tank. When the fuel pump goes to work it's not sending enough pressure (because hot gas / insufficient lube in the pump (gas lubes the pump)).
TL;DR epic little widget.
Throw in some wideband O2 sensor and gas pressure gauge and you'll know for sure. For me what you say sound like fuel pump issues.
Indeed it is the fuel pump. Glorious $1250 inc labor fuel pump.
WTF!? $1250 for a fuel pump? Do you have a rocket?
Maybe it's a scramjet.
Yeah it just sounds outrageous to me. Worst case scenario on a fuel pump, you are dropping the fuel tank. At a well equipped mechanic shop I could maybe see them squeezing 3 hours labor out of a worse case scenario fuel pump install.
If it's like my wife's jeep, it could be because of the module. The pump replacement was like $400 including labor, but if the module needed replaced it was like $800-900 (not including the pump). And they couldn't tell you which one it was until they replaced one and it didn't fix it. The codes they get are too generic. So you could luck out and they could replace the correct one, or you could be in the hole for a ton of money.
If the module was bad, then the pump wasn't really bad so they misdiagnosed it and made you pay for it. Also modules just like any part are marked up 2 to 3 times the price the shop pays for them. I've worked in the automotive industry and it's pretty sickening. I used to see this all the time.
An example would be like this
Fuel Module
Mechanic - $800
Advance Autoparts - $350
Amazon or wholesale - $200-250Oh we didn't pay for it. I did a good bit of research beforehand and everyone that had the work done for the code I was getting said the dealership told them that they couldn't guarantee they were replacing the right thing. They apparently get the same code for both the module and the pump, which is ridiculous.
Ya I had to replace an alternator in one of my older cars. It was like $300-400 for a shop to do it, I bought one at Advanced for $95 and did it in like 15 mins.
Same with my bike. The push rod seal went bad (it had a wet clutch). I took it to a mechanic ( I was in college and didn't have access to tools and a garage). They charged me $250. It happened again after I was out of school. I bought the materials for $7, and it took me an evening to fix it (I took a lot of breaks and ate dinner).
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Time to test!
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@johnhooks said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
They apparently get the same code for both the module and the pump, which is ridiculous.
Computers are smarter than that, but even if they weren't a fuel pump runs off 12 volts. You could hook the pump straight up to the battery and hear if it turns on or not.
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@IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@scottalanmiller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@KOOLER said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
Can't say enough positive stuff about getting an OBD2 reader, they're freaking fantastic.
I drive my poor car so freaking hard and I've had a bad misfire when it gets up to temp that no one has been able to diagnose. In less than 24h owning this widget I discovered it was misfiring on all 4 cylinders when it got hot on a low tank of gas. My theory is that the turbo is boiling the gas return line and it's heating up the tank. When the fuel pump goes to work it's not sending enough pressure (because hot gas / insufficient lube in the pump (gas lubes the pump)).
TL;DR epic little widget.
Throw in some wideband O2 sensor and gas pressure gauge and you'll know for sure. For me what you say sound like fuel pump issues.
Indeed it is the fuel pump. Glorious $1250 inc labor fuel pump.
WTF!? $1250 for a fuel pump? Do you have a rocket?
Maybe it's a scramjet.
Yeah it just sounds outrageous to me. Worst case scenario on a fuel pump, you are dropping the fuel tank. At a well equipped mechanic shop I could maybe see them squeezing 3 hours labor out of a worse case scenario fuel pump install.
8/10 times you dont have to drop the tank.
$CDN
Pump is a skookum high pressure unit and it's IN the tank.
I will try and save myself some cash and drive it there with jerry cans and siphon the tank dry before. They can push it onto the lift.
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@MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@scottalanmiller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@KOOLER said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
Can't say enough positive stuff about getting an OBD2 reader, they're freaking fantastic.
I drive my poor car so freaking hard and I've had a bad misfire when it gets up to temp that no one has been able to diagnose. In less than 24h owning this widget I discovered it was misfiring on all 4 cylinders when it got hot on a low tank of gas. My theory is that the turbo is boiling the gas return line and it's heating up the tank. When the fuel pump goes to work it's not sending enough pressure (because hot gas / insufficient lube in the pump (gas lubes the pump)).
TL;DR epic little widget.
Throw in some wideband O2 sensor and gas pressure gauge and you'll know for sure. For me what you say sound like fuel pump issues.
Indeed it is the fuel pump. Glorious $1250 inc labor fuel pump.
WTF!? $1250 for a fuel pump? Do you have a rocket?
Maybe it's a scramjet.
Yeah it just sounds outrageous to me. Worst case scenario on a fuel pump, you are dropping the fuel tank. At a well equipped mechanic shop I could maybe see them squeezing 3 hours labor out of a worse case scenario fuel pump install.
8/10 times you dont have to drop the tank.
$CDN
Pump is a skookum high pressure unit and it's IN the tank.
I will try and save myself some cash and drive it there with jerry cans and siphon the tank dry before. They can push it onto the lift.
You could really save some $$$ if you could drop the tank yourself. It shouldn't be too hard. Sometimes it's only 4 bolts.
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@MattSpeller what kind of car do you have?
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@IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@scottalanmiller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@KOOLER said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
Can't say enough positive stuff about getting an OBD2 reader, they're freaking fantastic.
I drive my poor car so freaking hard and I've had a bad misfire when it gets up to temp that no one has been able to diagnose. In less than 24h owning this widget I discovered it was misfiring on all 4 cylinders when it got hot on a low tank of gas. My theory is that the turbo is boiling the gas return line and it's heating up the tank. When the fuel pump goes to work it's not sending enough pressure (because hot gas / insufficient lube in the pump (gas lubes the pump)).
TL;DR epic little widget.
Throw in some wideband O2 sensor and gas pressure gauge and you'll know for sure. For me what you say sound like fuel pump issues.
Indeed it is the fuel pump. Glorious $1250 inc labor fuel pump.
WTF!? $1250 for a fuel pump? Do you have a rocket?
Maybe it's a scramjet.
Yeah it just sounds outrageous to me. Worst case scenario on a fuel pump, you are dropping the fuel tank. At a well equipped mechanic shop I could maybe see them squeezing 3 hours labor out of a worse case scenario fuel pump install.
8/10 times you dont have to drop the tank.
$CDN
Pump is a skookum high pressure unit and it's IN the tank.
I will try and save myself some cash and drive it there with jerry cans and siphon the tank dry before. They can push it onto the lift.
You could really save some $$$ if you could drop the tank yourself. It shouldn't be too hard. Sometimes it's only 4 bolts.
Chevy Cruze '11. Do not recommend.
No thanks bud, I know you're right but I had this job described to me by a mechanic friend as "quite possibly the worst" and "the best known way to be covered in gasoline from finger tips to butt crack" - I'll pass.
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I am not even sure you have to drop the tank buddy. I just watched some chevy youtube videos and they come up from the backseat floorboard. I couldnt find one specifically for a cruze, but damn that looks hell of easy on the aveo. Same thing with malibu and some other chevy sedans. I would do your homework because that's less than an hour job if you can do it from the back seat.
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@IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
I am not even sure you have to drop the tank buddy. I just watched some chevy youtube videos and they come up from the backseat floorboard. I couldnt find one specifically for a cruze, but damn that looks hell of easy on the aveo. Same thing with malibu and some other chevy sedans. I would do your homework because that's less than an hour job if you can do it from the back seat.
Ya if their parts book says drop the tank, they will even if they don't have to. That's why my bike was so expensive. They removed the gas tank and took out the engine, even though the push rod seal was underneath the stator cover.....
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@johnhooks said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
I am not even sure you have to drop the tank buddy. I just watched some chevy youtube videos and they come up from the backseat floorboard. I couldnt find one specifically for a cruze, but damn that looks hell of easy on the aveo. Same thing with malibu and some other chevy sedans. I would do your homework because that's less than an hour job if you can do it from the back seat.
Ya if their parts book says drop the tank, they will even if they don't have to. That's why my bike was so expensive. They removed the gas tank and took out the engine, even though the push rod seal was underneath the stator cover.....
Probably scarred of a lawsuit or something silly like that. I bet a lot of us have stories along those lines by now.
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@johnhooks said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
I am not even sure you have to drop the tank buddy. I just watched some chevy youtube videos and they come up from the backseat floorboard. I couldnt find one specifically for a cruze, but damn that looks hell of easy on the aveo. Same thing with malibu and some other chevy sedans. I would do your homework because that's less than an hour job if you can do it from the back seat.
Ya if their parts book says drop the tank, they will even if they don't have to.
They SAY they dropped the tank.....Seriously though that is how mechanics operate. If the book says it take 5 hours and they finish in 2. they always charge 5. If they book says they charge 5 hours and they finish in 7. They charge for 7.
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@travisdh1 said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@johnhooks said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
@IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:
I am not even sure you have to drop the tank buddy. I just watched some chevy youtube videos and they come up from the backseat floorboard. I couldnt find one specifically for a cruze, but damn that looks hell of easy on the aveo. Same thing with malibu and some other chevy sedans. I would do your homework because that's less than an hour job if you can do it from the back seat.
Ya if their parts book says drop the tank, they will even if they don't have to. That's why my bike was so expensive. They removed the gas tank and took out the engine, even though the push rod seal was underneath the stator cover.....
Probably scarred of a lawsuit or something silly like that. I bet a lot of us have stories along those lines by now.
What are they going to do sue them because they didnt drop the tank if something happens in the future? I highly doubt it. The mechanic will say they did it and they is really no evidence whether they did or didn't.
