Ads on sites
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I don't mind ads, but on some sites I am down to less than 50% of utilized space. Check out the pic below on an article I was reading. I've obviously been looking at buying a new grill...
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Um, wow, looks like an IT forum. Cough cough.
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Horizontal ads are annoying. About 80% of my business income comes from web ads, none of which use sound or go over the content you're viewing until you close it. I really hate that crap.
The only trouble is that adult entertainment ads tend to be much higher quality than other types of ads, because they're essentially audio-less video with text on them, so I do get reports from time to time of it being too CPU/GPU intensive for some people.
I've even had to block a few ads over the years because they were so resource intensive that videos wouldn't play without frame dropping. I did bring this up to Bra**ers (self censored since NSFW, but it's a zz), the primary perpetrator of this, and they simply said the one thing people who always make CPU intensive Flash ads (or in the old days Java Applets) "it isn't happening with us." I have two CPUs with 8 cores a piece, 32GB RAM, and Nvidia Quadro M4000 and it's using 100% CPU? Your ad is garbage and you need to rethink of how you're doing this.
It still irritates me all the Java applet people who did the same sort of thing years ago. Back then I had two CPUs as well, and 2GB RAM or so, more than anyone else I knew, and still was maxing out everything so I couldn't possibly believe it "was working fine for [them]."
Be less self conscience about your ads and do a better job. On top of that, you can get a lot of better clicks out of users by putting ads in nice places, not shoving it into their faces so they use ad blockers.
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That site was so busy it took me a second to realize that it wasn't Lowe's site.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Um, wow, looks like an IT forum. Cough cough.
Haha! I'm not cheating on Mango. I was doing a search for the Hilary Clinton Exchange server debacle.
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believe the hype... buy some sort of green egg spin off. Komodo are great and less $$$. It's what we will do next more than likely. Our current outdoor kitchen has a big stainless gas grill. it's OK. but man, those igloo charcoal grills are sick. and, ads suck lol.
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@KyleCaminita said:
believe the hype... buy some sort of green egg spin off. Komodo are great and less $$$. It's what we will do next more than likely. Our current outdoor kitchen has a big stainless gas grill. it's OK. but man, those igloo charcoal grills are sick. and, ads suck lol.
We got a stainless gas grill (Broil King). It's ok. Lot of work to clean... wow. First big nice grill I've had before. I have wanted a big green egg so bad, ALMOST bought a Komodo! We're debating returning the grill (bought it yesterday, we have 30 days). We don't cook for tons of people so it would be the right size. It's just me and my girlfriend, with maybe cooking for 2 other people once per month.
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Does adblocker not work?
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We find ourselves in a quandary - really advertisers find themselves in a quandary.
To get more clicks (fake or not) advertisers found more and more ways to bombard us with ad crap. But those ways of course left us the end user looking for ways to kill the ads.
Add to that that we now pay for bandwidth on metered connections again (through mobile carriers) we users don't want to pay for something we didn't ask for.
Other systems like radio, TV and newspapers/magazines don't cost anything to the consumer (directly anyway) to show us ads. They interrupt the content we want to give us the paid content. That is something that doesn't really exist on the internet. I suppose the slideshow approach to webpages could be a way to do this but that probably won't work for things like forums.
System is broken compared to the old Radio/TV solution in that we, the end user, are paying to have ads delivered to us, paying for bandwidth, and this is where I have a problem with ads on websites. This is even more insidious in places like single player video games (think iPhones). You're chewing up bandwidth being shown ads while playing a game.
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@Dashrender said:
To get more clicks (fake or not) advertisers found more and more ways to bombard us with ad crap. But those ways of course left us the end user looking for ways to kill the ads.
But clicks are worthless. So the issue is that someone has picked a worthless metric and is using that instead of something useful. That's why this causes a problem and why there is no obvious solution. The bad metric is driving all kinds of bad behaviour. It's not results oriented.
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@Dashrender said:
Add to that that we now pay for bandwidth on metered connections again (through mobile carriers) we users don't want to pay for something we didn't ask for.
I beg to disagree about only mobile carriers having caps. DSL Reports.com has all kinds of stories on usage caps being placed on fixed lines all the time. Basically anywhere in the US that only cable and DSL is available will be capped soon, if it's not already.
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@travisdh1 said:
@Dashrender said:
Add to that that we now pay for bandwidth on metered connections again (through mobile carriers) we users don't want to pay for something we didn't ask for.
I beg to disagree about only mobile carriers having caps. DSL Reports.com has all kinds of stories on usage caps being placed on fixed lines all the time. Basically anywhere in the US that only cable and DSL is available will be capped soon, if it's not already.
Another reason I love living outside of the US. I'm on a US phone plan but get no caps at all in Europe. And my home line has no caps.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
To get more clicks (fake or not) advertisers found more and more ways to bombard us with ad crap. But those ways of course left us the end user looking for ways to kill the ads.
But clicks are worthless. So the issue is that someone has picked a worthless metric and is using that instead of something useful. That's why this causes a problem and why there is no obvious solution. The bad metric is driving all kinds of bad behaviour. It's not results oriented.
Without using user tracking, third party cookies, it's pretty difficult if not impossible to do that tracking, as you've already mentioned. But ad space sellers can't tell their customers - hey just trust us, we know how many eyeballs will see your stuff - and those same customers continue to believe that click info is somehow useful.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
To get more clicks (fake or not) advertisers found more and more ways to bombard us with ad crap. But those ways of course left us the end user looking for ways to kill the ads.
But clicks are worthless. So the issue is that someone has picked a worthless metric and is using that instead of something useful. That's why this causes a problem and why there is no obvious solution. The bad metric is driving all kinds of bad behaviour. It's not results oriented.
Without using user tracking, third party cookies, it's pretty difficult if not impossible to do that tracking, as you've already mentioned. But ad space sellers can't tell their customers - hey just trust us, we know how many eyeballs will see your stuff - and those same customers continue to believe that click info is somehow useful.
Well sure.. the ad SPACE sellers can't fix this. They are stuck. It is the people buying ads and demanding a useless metric that is causing the problem. Only the ultimate customer can fix the problem - they are the ones that control the money.
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@scottalanmiller Are we talking about mobile phone plan, or home phone plan? I know they are sometimes one and the same in the states, but we have different here - my home is 40meg fibre, completely unlimited usage for £15/month. My mobile has 100 Minutes, unlimited texts and 2GB 4G data for £11/month - plus no roaming charges in USA/Canada/Australia/Most of Europe etc...I could upgrade to unlimited internet for about £8/month more...but don't really use mobile data much!
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@NattNatt said:
@scottalanmiller Are we talking about mobile phone plan, or home phone plan? I know they are sometimes one and the same in the states, but we have different here - my home is 40meg fibre, completely unlimited usage for £15/month. My mobile has 100 Minutes, unlimited texts and 2GB 4G data for £11/month - plus no roaming charges in USA/Canada/Australia/Most of Europe etc...I could upgrade to unlimited internet for about £8/month more...but don't really use mobile data much!
I mentioned both. Mine happen to be from the same ISP right now (both T-Mobile) but one is in my name and one is not so they are only coincidentally both from the big pink T. I get no caps on either.
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@NattNatt You all make US look terrible. (pun intended) Maybe one day I'll be able to do something about it!
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I know of nowhere in the US that has combined mobile and home data plans. Might exist, but it is rare. Never even heard a rumour of that.
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@NattNatt said:
h - plus no roaming charges in USA/Canada/Australia/Most of Europe etc...I could upgrade to unlimited internet for about £8/month more...but don't really use mobile data much!
I have unlimited data and text, no data/text roaming in 160 countries.
