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    (SOHO) Dual WAN Load Balancing Gigabit VPN Router with RADIUS / ldap Support Recommendations

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    • BrainsB
      Brains @PSX_Defector
      last edited by Brains

      @PSX_Defector One more question. Do you know what the limit is for maximum port forwarding entries on the BPL-ONE? We are currently capped at 30.

      EDIT - I called their support (GO CDT TIMEZONE COMPANIES!!). Tech support was VERY helpful and said there were no restrictions.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
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        My 100/20 pipe runs me $320/month, I can do better with a contract instead of month to month. Considering that, $1500 doesn't seem unreasonable for something than should last you at least 3 years short of outgrowing it.

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        • J
          Jason Banned
          last edited by

          Pfsense will meet your needs as well if you aren't looking for an appliance.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @Brains
            last edited by

            @Brains said:

            Unfortunately that is not an option for me.

            What are your limitations? and can you tell us why they exist?

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            • BrainsB
              Brains @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender The IT Director does not want additional complexity (solid windows environment) and my staff is not Linux trained so there is a knowledge gap that would exist. Unfortunately I cant really do anything about that and I do not have time to be the main tech support whenever something breaks with the system. I have to work within the system I have. It looks like we are going to settle with the LRT224 due to cost concerns.... Thanks for your help though, I would much rather go with the Peplink ONE, but the $300 ($600 since we like to have a backup) price difference is enough to make a difference at this time.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Brains
                last edited by

                @Brains said:

                @Dashrender The IT Director does not want additional complexity (solid windows environment) and my staff is not Linux trained so there is a knowledge gap that would exist. Unfortunately I cant really do anything about that and I do not have time to be the main tech support whenever something breaks with the system. I have to work within the system I have. It looks like we are going to settle with the LRT224 due to cost concerns.... Thanks for your help though, I would much rather go with the Peplink ONE, but the $300 ($600 since we like to have a backup) price difference is enough to make a difference at this time.

                Especially as pfSense isn't Linux 🙂

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                • BrainsB
                  Brains @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller Isn't it both? We wouldn't want to buy a server license for it, so Linux would be my only option

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @Brains
                    last edited by

                    @Brains said:

                    @scottalanmiller Isn't it both? We wouldn't want to buy a server license for it, so Linux would be my only option

                    pfSense is BSD. VyOS is normally what's recommended if you want to do routing on pc hardware. I'm still getting to know how to work it myself.

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                    • BrainsB
                      Brains @travisdh1
                      last edited by

                      @travisdh1 ahh ok sorry I thought Scott meant its windows and Unix based. I assumed it was Linux, but I guess its BSD. I haven't had any hands on experience with BSD, and while there may be a shot at getting some Linux in our environment for an upgrade to NGINX and Apache, I don't think I could swing BSD in addition to it.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Brains
                        last edited by

                        @Brains said:

                        @scottalanmiller Isn't it both? We wouldn't want to buy a server license for it, so Linux would be my only option

                        pf is the name of the FreeBSD firewall. pfSense is a package of FreeBSD and with a web GUI for managing pf.

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                        • J
                          Jason Banned @travisdh1
                          last edited by

                          @travisdh1 said:

                          @Brains said:

                          @scottalanmiller Isn't it both? We wouldn't want to buy a server license for it, so Linux would be my only option

                          pfSense is BSD. VyOS is normally what's recommended if you want to do routing on pc hardware. I'm still getting to know how to work it myself.

                          VyOS is great if you know Cisco IOS commands, sounds like they would rather manage things with a GUI though.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Brains said:

                            @Dashrender The IT Director does not want additional complexity (solid windows environment) and my staff is not Linux trained so there is a knowledge gap that would exist. Unfortunately I cant really do anything about that and I do not have time to be the main tech support whenever something breaks with the system. I have to work within the system I have. It looks like we are going to settle with the LRT224 due to cost concerns.... Thanks for your help though, I would much rather go with the Peplink ONE, but the $300 ($600 since we like to have a backup) price difference is enough to make a difference at this time.

                            Especially as pfSense isn't Linux 🙂

                            yeah yeah - it's not Linux.. but Scott know that's not what @Brains was really meaning, @Brains was really meaning anything non Windows or not whole solution in a box that's managed by a GUI - which you can tell Scott knows that by the little smilie.

                            😛

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @Brains
                              last edited by

                              @Brains said:

                              @Dashrender The IT Director does not want additional complexity (solid windows environment) and my staff is not Linux trained so there is a knowledge gap that would exist. Unfortunately I cant really do anything about that and I do not have time to be the main tech support whenever something breaks with the system. I have to work within the system I have. It looks like we are going to settle with the LRT224 due to cost concerns.... Thanks for your help though, I would much rather go with the Peplink ONE, but the $300 ($600 since we like to have a backup) price difference is enough to make a difference at this time.

                              I just don't understand why they are being so cheap on the hardware? Seriously, it's worth putting your company at risk, or have lower performance on your 200 Mb pipe over a few hundred lowesy dollars? If that's true, why not save some bucks and lower that internet pipe to 100 Mb or even lower?

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                                Jason Banned @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @Brains said:

                                @Dashrender The IT Director does not want additional complexity (solid windows environment) and my staff is not Linux trained so there is a knowledge gap that would exist. Unfortunately I cant really do anything about that and I do not have time to be the main tech support whenever something breaks with the system. I have to work within the system I have. It looks like we are going to settle with the LRT224 due to cost concerns.... Thanks for your help though, I would much rather go with the Peplink ONE, but the $300 ($600 since we like to have a backup) price difference is enough to make a difference at this time.

                                I just don't understand why they are being so cheap on the hardware? Seriously, it's worth putting your company at risk, or have lower performance on your 200 Mb pipe over a few hundred lowesy dollars? If that's true, why not save some bucks and lower that internet pipe to 100 Mb or even lower?

                                How are 30 users even using a 200mb connection, unless your letting everyone stream video?

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  Buy an ERL and pay me to set it up. You will come in under $1000 unless you cannot give clear requirements (which I highly expect to be the case).

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                                    Jason Banned @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @JaredBusch said:

                                    Buy an ERL and pay me to set it up. You will come in under $1000 unless you cannot give clear requirements (which I highly expect to be the case).

                                    Bahahahahaha.

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                                    • PSX_DefectorP
                                      PSX_Defector @Brains
                                      last edited by PSX_Defector

                                      @Brains said:

                                      It looks like we are going to settle with the LRT224 due to cost concerns....

                                      Waste of money. Had one, got rid of it because it wasn't powerful enough to handle what I wanted to do.

                                      Better off getting a Mikrotik if price is a concern. $70 for much more useful hardware.

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                                      • BrainsB
                                        Brains @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @Brains said:

                                        @Dashrender The IT Director does not want additional complexity (solid windows environment) and my staff is not Linux trained so there is a knowledge gap that would exist. Unfortunately I cant really do anything about that and I do not have time to be the main tech support whenever something breaks with the system. I have to work within the system I have. It looks like we are going to settle with the LRT224 due to cost concerns.... Thanks for your help though, I would much rather go with the Peplink ONE, but the $300 ($600 since we like to have a backup) price difference is enough to make a difference at this time.

                                        I just don't understand why they are being so cheap on the hardware? Seriously, it's worth putting your company at risk, or have lower performance on your 200 Mb pipe over a few hundred lowesy dollars? If that's true, why not save some bucks and lower that internet pipe to 100 Mb or even lower?

                                        It's just bad timing and we are in the healthcare market and subject to Texas's Workers Compensation craziness, so its been a rough year or two for us. They are watching all the pennies. But GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! I was able to find a Peplink CORE ONE on amazon for $399!!! So I was able to make the argument and get them approved. Ill be ordering them today or tomorrow.

                                        I love this community btw, thanks a lot for the help. If anyone will be at Lone Star PHP in Texas this weekend, let me know. Ill be there and will buy you a beer.

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                                        • BrainsB
                                          Brains @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          @JaredBusch said:

                                          Buy an ERL and pay me to set it up. You will come in under $1000 unless you cannot give clear requirements (which I highly expect to be the case).

                                          Ive got plenty of clear requirements, I'm very good at my job (and there aren't too many requirements). The PepLink covers all of our requirements very nicely. I was looking at the EdgeRouter Lite (and I already upgraded us to Unifi WiFi recently), how are Ubiquiti's Routers? The APs have seemed to work pretty well but the range is a little lower than our previous ones. I still need to fine tune of course.

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                                          • BrainsB
                                            Brains @Jason
                                            last edited by

                                            @Jason said:

                                            @travisdh1 said:

                                            @Brains said:

                                            @scottalanmiller Isn't it both? We wouldn't want to buy a server license for it, so Linux would be my only option

                                            pfSense is BSD. VyOS is normally what's recommended if you want to do routing on pc hardware. I'm still getting to know how to work it myself.

                                            VyOS is great if you know Cisco IOS commands, sounds like they would rather manage things with a GUI though.

                                            Its been a while since I used to program Catalyst routers for Orlando Telco, but they would rather follow the KISS method whenever and wherever possible. I have a lot of green staff.

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