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    • olivierO
      olivier @BRRABill
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      @BRRABill That's far from being the usual case. But it could happen, in this case yes it would be faster to only restore metadata.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @olivier
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        @olivier said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

        @BRRABill That's far from being the usual case. But it could happen, in this case yes it would be faster to only restore metadata.

        Have you been following ML? Seems to happen a lot around here! 🙂

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @BRRABill
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          @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

          @olivier said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

          @BRRABill That's far from being the usual case. But it could happen, in this case yes it would be faster to only restore metadata.

          Have you been following ML? Seems to happen a lot around here! 🙂

          To be fair, you've done some weird things with your XS installations..

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          • olivierO
            olivier @BRRABill
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            @BRRABill well, not in my world (more corporate world than lab env). In average, there is more SR lost or problems which need to restore entirely a VM. And if you are in a pool, losing one host completely is just a non-event.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said

              To be fair, you've done some weird things with your XS installations..

              Hasn't happened to me yet! 🙂

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1 @BRRABill
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                @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                @DustinB3403 said

                To be fair, you've done some weird things with your XS installations..

                Hasn't happened to me yet! 🙂

                We know you can still break it! 😉

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @olivier
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                  @olivier said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                  @BRRABill well, not in my world (more corporate world than lab env). In average, there is more SR lost or problems which need to restore entirely a VM. And if you are in a pool, losing one host completely is just a non-event.

                  I'm just mentioning it because in the past few months we've had it happen to at least two people here (@Dashrender and I forget who else), and since a lot of the time XS is recommended to people looking for a hypervisor that are just moving to virtualization, I just thought it might be appropriate for them.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @travisdh1
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                    @travisdh1 said

                    We know you can still break it! 😉

                    I'm planning to migrate my XS booting off of USB and onto a RAID array so there is still a chance.

                    Though since it was pretty pain free to do, I might just wait until the USB stick croaks.

                    Nah.....

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @BRRABill
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                      @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                      @olivier said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                      @BRRABill well, not in my world (more corporate world than lab env). In average, there is more SR lost or problems which need to restore entirely a VM. And if you are in a pool, losing one host completely is just a non-event.

                      I'm just mentioning it because in the past few months we've had it happen to at least two people here (@Dashrender and I forget who else), and since a lot of the time XS is recommended to people looking for a hypervisor that are just moving to virtualization, I just thought it might be appropriate for them.

                      The solution though is very simple.

                      Shutdown the host, and clone the USB drive.

                      Or if you don't want to install to USB, create two partitions on your hardware a small 32GB partition, and the rest for installation. Install and go. You then have a boot partition in RAID1, and the other in RAID10.

                      Problem solved. Albeit more expensively.

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                      • travisdh1T
                        travisdh1 @BRRABill
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                        @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                        @DustinB3403 said

                        To be fair, you've done some weird things with your XS installations..

                        Hasn't happened to me yet! 🙂

                        Actually.... I literally broke a usb stick the other day. Forgot it was plugged in when I was rerouting cables and popped it off the front port... The R900 wasn't even scratched.

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill
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                          You know, this might belong in its own thread, but...

                          I know it's a terrible idea to restore a DC. Always better to reinstall and promote.

                          But what about moving one from one XS to another?

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                          • momurdaM
                            momurda @BRRABill
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                            @BRRABill You mean just migrating a running vm that is a AD DC? Done it many times.

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                            • olivierO
                              olivier @BRRABill
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                              @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                              You know, this might belong in its own thread, but...

                              I know it's a terrible idea to restore a DC. Always better to reinstall and promote.

                              But what about moving one from one XS to another?

                              I'm so happy in the Linux world. Not trolling about MS products, just facts about fragile some windows VMs can be when there is a problem.

                              My clients experiencing the VDI corrupt stuff:

                              • 3 Windows VMs, all corrupted
                              • 6 Linux VMs, some with database or web server: no problem

                              Can be a complete random (very small number to draw any conclusion), but still. That's very common.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @momurda
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                                @momurda said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                                @BRRABill You mean just migrating a running vm that is a AD DC? Done it many times.

                                Or shutting it down and doing a full move.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @olivier
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                                  @olivier said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                                  @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                                  You know, this might belong in its own thread, but...

                                  I know it's a terrible idea to restore a DC. Always better to reinstall and promote.

                                  But what about moving one from one XS to another?

                                  I'm so happy in the Linux world. Not trolling about MS products, just facts about fragile some windows VMs can be when there is a problem.

                                  My clients experiencing the VDI corrupt stuff:

                                  • 3 Windows VMs, all corrupted
                                  • 6 Linux VMs, some with database or web server: no problem

                                  Can be a complete random (very small number to draw any conclusion), but still. That's very common.

                                  I still don't understand why AD isn't smart enough to just fix itself.

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                                  • olivierO
                                    olivier @BRRABill
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                                    @BRRABill It's a monolithic/packaged/all in one solution, with a lot of layers. So it makes sense in a way.

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                                    • momurdaM
                                      momurda
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                                      Try moving your vdi while vm is running, to another SR, very exciting as you dont know if you will get the dreaded, 'The VDI mirroring cannot be performed" and your vdi just disappears. Luckily it is just detached and back in its original SR. Seems to only happen with windows vms for me

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                                      • olivierO
                                        olivier @momurda
                                        last edited by olivier

                                        @momurda said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                                        Try moving your vdi while vm is running, to another SR, very exciting as you dont know if you will get the dreaded, 'The VDI mirroring cannot be performed" and your vdi just disappears. Luckily it is just detached and back in its original SR. Seems to only happen with windows vms for me

                                        Ouch. Tools installed I suppose. This error mean tapdisk failed to write new blocks to the destination 😕 (XenServer issue)

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                                        • DanpD
                                          Danp @olivier
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                                          @olivier said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                                          @Danp Thanks. If you have any log, feel free to share 😉

                                          Just sent it to your support email address.

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                                          • olivierO
                                            olivier
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                                            Thanks. But without the debug option, I'm afraid we won't spot anything.

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