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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @olivier
      last edited by

      @olivier said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

      Indeed, you can't live migrate a VM from a recent version of XS to an older one.

      But you can go the other way, thank goodness!

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
        last edited by

        @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

        @olivier said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

        Indeed, you can't live migrate a VM from a recent version of XS to an older one.

        But you can go the other way, thank goodness!

        🙂 Would really suck if you couldn't. Nice that updating isn't too bad.

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said

          🙂 Would really suck if you couldn't. Nice that updating isn't too bad.

          I was certainly happy to have XS installed on USB.

          I wonder what it would be like if XS is on the same disk/array as the SR.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill
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            Has anyone ever done an upgrade to the same version?

            By that, I mean, installed, say XS7 over an existing XS7 install?

            I am thinking of doing that to test my "clone to a bigger USB" theory.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill
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              Another question, this one more for general knowledge.

              If I were to clone the current boot USB, and then try this upgrade and it bombs, can I just go back to the cloned original setup?

              This is the kind of stuff that I don't think you can do, but then @scottalanmiller says ... "you are thinking windows ... Linux is just .... EASY"

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @BRRABill
                last edited by

                @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                Another question, this one more for general knowledge.

                If I were to clone the current boot USB, and then try this upgrade and it bombs, can I just go back to the cloned original setup?

                This is the kind of stuff that I don't think you can do, but then @scottalanmiller says ... "you are thinking windows ... Linux is just .... EASY"

                Yes you can do that. As the Boot USB is what is running the hardware, the hardware doesn't store any of the boot info.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said

                  Yes you can do that. As the Boot USB is what is running the hardware, the hardware doesn't store any of the boot info.

                  And none of the VM info/data is altered with an upgrade?

                  So, in theory you could try going to 7 from 6.5, it could bomb, and you could just go back to your 6.5 USB?

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @BRRABill
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                    @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                    @DustinB3403 said

                    Yes you can do that. As the Boot USB is what is running the hardware, the hardware doesn't store any of the boot info.

                    And none of the VM info/data is altered with an upgrade?

                    So, in theory you could try going to 7 from 6.5, it could bomb, and you could just go back to your 6.5 USB?

                    That's the theory.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
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                      Of course, testing in a LAB would be ideal.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @DustinB3403
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                        @DustinB3403 said

                        Of course, testing in a LAB would be ideal.

                        What, no one has ever tested this? 🙂

                        Once I get all the production stuff up I will give it a shot.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Testing is for losers.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                            Testing is for losers.

                            Or for people who prefer to not play with production.

                            But YOLO!

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                              Testing is for losers.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @olivier
                                last edited by

                                @olivier said

                                Indeed, you can't live migrate a VM from a recent version of XS to an older one.

                                What about move and copy? Can you do that to a stopped VM?

                                What about export? Could i export the VM from XS7 and import it to XS6.5?

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @BRRABill
                                  last edited by

                                  @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                                  @olivier said

                                  Indeed, you can't live migrate a VM from a recent version of XS to an older one.

                                  What about move and copy? Can you do that to a stopped VM?

                                  What about export? Could i export the VM from XS7 and import it to XS6.5?

                                  I don't believe you can move a VM backwards to an older version of XS7.

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                                  • DanpD
                                    Danp @BRRABill
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                                    @BRRABill You should be able to export / import from XS7 to an older version. Not sure about moving a stopped VM.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @DustinB3403
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                                      @DustinB3403 said

                                      I don't believe you can move a VM backwards to an older version of XS7.

                                      I admit I am still unclear (as are a lot, I think) as to how much the VMs get touched in various operations.

                                      For example, my question yesterday about a botched upgrade. If you can theoretically go back to 6.5 from a botched 7 upgrade, it can't be touching the VMs, right?

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @BRRABill
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                                        @BRRABill said in BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer:

                                        @DustinB3403 said

                                        I don't believe you can move a VM backwards to an older version of XS7.

                                        I admit I am still unclear (as are a lot, I think) as to how much the VMs get touched in various operations.

                                        For example, my question yesterday about a botched upgrade. If you can theoretically go back to 6.5 from a botched 7 upgrade, it can't be touching the VMs, right?

                                        Well if the install was botched, then perhaps the upgrade to the VM's hadn't happened yet.

                                        The only thing I recall changing when moving from ESXi version to version was the ESXi tools inside the OS, the outside (the VM container) didn't seem to change.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @BRRABill
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                                          @BRRABill said

                                          Ah, OK.

                                          Can you perhaps invent a little paper clip that comes up on the bottom of the XO windows that tells you to click that button again?

                                          I AM KIDDING, OF COURSE.

                                          BTW, I know you guys watch Silicon Valley. What a coincidence I mentioned this, haha.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill
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                                            So, for reasons I am not going to discuss to protect my stupidity, I reinstalled XS7 today.

                                            I started from scratch, and this is how things got partitioned on my fancy new 64GB USB stick.

                                            Just FYI...

                                            1 46139392 83888127 18G Microsoft basic
                                            2 8390656 46139391 18G Microsoft basic
                                            3 83888128 84936703 512M BIOS boot parti
                                            5 2048 8390655 4G Microsoft basic
                                            6 84936704 87033855 1G Linux swap

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