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    BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer

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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said:

      So you're asking if, assuming a thin provisioned disk of 50 GB has 40 GB in use, then you delete 20 GB, leaving you with 40 GB actual file.. is there a way to release that now free 20 GB space, reclaiming the RS space.

      good question.

      Right. You can do it in Hyper-V (I think). There is a COMPACT option.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @BRRABill
        last edited by

        @BRRABill said:

        @Dashrender said:

        So you're asking if, assuming a thin provisioned disk of 50 GB has 40 GB in use, then you delete 20 GB, leaving you with 40 GB actual file.. is there a way to release that now free 20 GB space, reclaiming the RS space.

        good question.

        Right. You can do it in Hyper-V (I think). There is a COMPACT option.

        yeah I'm not surprised.. you can do the same with SQL and Exchange DBs, though it normally (if not completely) requires taking those systems offline.

        when i needed to to this for SQL in the past, I just do a backup and restore.. was faster than a compact

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill
          last edited by

          I found it interesting that XS stores the virtual hard drives in VHD format.

          Opens right up in Hyper-V/Windows.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            yeah I'm not surprised.. you can do the same with SQL and Exchange DBs, though it normally (if not completely) requires taking those systems offline.

            Yeah the system/VHD definitely has to be offline.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill
              last edited by

              I have decided to give XenServer a try in the production environment.

              I installed it for reals on our new server.

              Had another install question...
              If you have more than one partition and select both, it says it will span the storage repository across them. Is that ever a good idea?

              In my situation here, I have a SSD array and a SATA array, so I assume spanning them would be a terrible idea.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by

                huh... what is the plan for the two different arrays?

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender

                  Well, as of now, unknown.

                  The SSD is more than I need. I might just end up not using the SATA array.

                  My thought was use it for storage for backups and stuff, but that probably would be best done on another machine.

                  But, I was just curious as to that option.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    Another question:

                    When you do a fresh install, and there are, say 20 updates available, with a service pack being the last one...can you just install the service pack? Or do you need to install all the updates up to the service pack?

                    0_1458857473452_xs-updates.png

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill
                      last edited by

                      This article seems to say the SP includes all previous updates.

                      http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX142355

                      Just want to be 100% sure.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        Nope.. some include some older ones.. but not all.

                        You can start with the newest and work backwards, refreshing the list of needed updates each time.

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said:

                          Nope.. some include some older ones.. but not all.

                          You can start with the newest and work backwards, refreshing the list of needed updates each time.

                          Sorry, I did not ask a complete question.

                          I meant to ask can you just install the SP to cover all the updates previous to that.

                          Which I think from the link I posted and what you said will be OK.

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill
                            last edited by

                            Another question...

                            Somewhere in the middle of updates, I started getting the following error.

                            My first question is:
                            before this error .. where was the updating "migrating" the VM to?

                            And the second questions is ... why did it stop? Out of disk space or something?

                            0_1458870642839_migration-error.png

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill
                              last edited by

                              Well, everything was going OK until I tried making a new pool tonight.

                              Then my server stopped responding.

                              So, that is that until I go into the office tomorrow.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill
                                last edited by

                                NOTE TO SELF:
                                should probably start using iDRAC with this new system

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                  last edited by

                                  @BRRABill said:

                                  NOTE TO SELF:
                                  should probably start using iDRAC with this new system

                                  Yes, out of band management is a really, really big deal.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @BRRABill
                                    last edited by

                                    @BRRABill said:

                                    Well, everything was going OK until I tried making a new pool tonight.

                                    Then my server stopped responding.

                                    So, that is that until I go into the office tomorrow.

                                    Turns out somehow I powered the machine down.

                                    Still, a sign from above to get iDRAC up and running.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill
                                      last edited by

                                      Something else I found today, that could use some explaining when someone has time...

                                      I added a server to a pool. But it turns out that if you remove a server from a pool, it deletes all the local storage. What is the reasoning behind that?

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
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                                        So you have 2 servers in a Xen Pool, and if you remove one, it wipes the pool?

                                        Without looking into it to much it sounds just like shared storage, and for a single host to know what it has it has to clear the storage and rescan it.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          @BRRABill said:

                                          I added a server to a pool. But it turns out that if you remove a server from a pool, it deletes all the local storage. What is the reasoning behind that?

                                          It's a decom process, they automate that step as the assumption is that the device is being scrapped. I'm not sure that I agree with the automation, but there is logic behind it.

                                          Why are you removing systems from the pool if you want them to maintain their local storage?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            @DustinB3403 said:

                                            So you have 2 servers in a Xen Pool, and if you remove one, it wipes the pool?

                                            No, it only wipes local.

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