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    • stacksofplatesS
      stacksofplates @adam.ierymenko
      last edited by stacksofplates

      @adam.ierymenko said:

      @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

      It works great on mine. I use it with my FreePBX and it works really well. My Nexus 5 is probably the slowest part of the whole thing.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @adam.ierymenko
        last edited by

        @adam.ierymenko said:

        @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

        Never said that ZT would not work. The issue is the endpoints on the other end.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @adam.ierymenko
          last edited by

          @adam.ierymenko said:

          . No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

          Is that it? Is NAT traversal why you would want to run softphones over ZT instead of just connecting them directly to the internet?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            Is that it? Is NAT traversal why you would want to run softphones over ZT instead of just connecting them directly to the internet?

            No, security is the main reason. NAT traversal is easy (ish) to deal with.

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            • FATeknollogeeF
              FATeknollogee @adam.ierymenko
              last edited by

              @adam.ierymenko said:

              @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

              How are they doing this?
              I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

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                adam.ierymenko @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller I disagree about NAT traversal being easy. It isn't too bad in, say, 90% of cases, but there's a long tail of awful edge cases and bad NATs that are terrible to deal with. We know this all too well.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                  last edited by

                  @FATeknollogee said:

                  @adam.ierymenko said:

                  @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

                  How are they doing this?
                  I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

                  Just install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.

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                  • FATeknollogeeF
                    FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @FATeknollogee said:

                    @adam.ierymenko said:

                    @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

                    How are they doing this?
                    I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

                    Just install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.

                    How would you deal with remote handsets?

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @FATeknollogee
                      last edited by

                      @FATeknollogee said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @FATeknollogee said:

                      @adam.ierymenko said:

                      @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

                      How are they doing this?
                      I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

                      Just install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.

                      How would you deal with remote handsets?

                      You'd have to use a zt gateway.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                        last edited by

                        @FATeknollogee said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @FATeknollogee said:

                        @adam.ierymenko said:

                        @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

                        How are they doing this?
                        I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

                        Just install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.

                        How would you deal with remote handsets?

                        ZT goes on every node. Same as with more traditional VPN technologies. If you use OpenVPN, every handset needs OpenVPN on it, too.

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                        • FATeknollogeeF
                          FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said:

                          zt gateway

                          Can you install ZT on Yealink or Grandstream handsets?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                            last edited by

                            @FATeknollogee said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            zt gateway

                            Can you install ZT on Yealink or Grandstream handsets?

                            No, you would need them behind a gateway.

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                            • FATeknollogeeF
                              FATeknollogee
                              last edited by

                              What is this gateway you guys are speaking of?
                              I looked on the ZT site

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                last edited by

                                @FATeknollogee said:

                                What is this gateway you guys are speaking of?
                                I looked on the ZT site

                                ZT has mentioned them a few times. ZT supports a gateway function so that you can have a "LAN" behind a gateway without needing ZT installed to each device.

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                                • stacksofplatesS
                                  stacksofplates
                                  last edited by stacksofplates

                                  So I downloaded VyOS and was able to install ZT on it. However I can't get it on my EdgeRouter as I have no other MIPS devices to compile on (I can't install make on the EdgeRouter) and my cross compilation skills do not exist.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    I never did the research to see that the EdgeRouter is a MIPS device.

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                                    • stacksofplatesS
                                      stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by stacksofplates

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      I never did the research to see that the EdgeRouter is a MIPS device.

                                      Ya, MIPS64. So from what I saw on the ZT github, processor type doesn't matter really as long as it's 32 or 64 bit, but you still need to be able to compile on it.........................Suck.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        Yup, sounds like a MIPS development board is in order!

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch
                                          last edited by JaredBusch

                                          The EdgeMax line makes use of Debian Wheezy Not sure what version. Haven't followed that in a while.

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                                          • travisdh1T
                                            travisdh1 @stacksofplates
                                            last edited by

                                            @johnhooks said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            I never did the research to see that the EdgeRouter is a MIPS device.

                                            Ya, MIPS64. So from what I saw on the ZT github, processor type doesn't matter really as long as it's 32 or 64 bit, but you still need to be able to compile on it.........................Suck.

                                            You can't cross compile for it? I did that all the time way back when. Engineers requested some open source stuff for IRIX, so I made it happen.

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