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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch
      last edited by

      I have a server in a colocation facility with plenty of unused storage.

      I want to setup some thing to allow me to use that storage as a target for replication from Veeam or Hyper-V.

      The server has about 6TB in a RAID10 sitting mostly unused.
      The hardware is running Hyper-V 2012 R2.
      I have a VPN between the site and the colocation facility.

      What should I setup?

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      • brianlittlejohnB
        brianlittlejohn @JaredBusch
        last edited by

        @JaredBusch I have an extended hyper-v replication setup over a vpn that works well, it lags behind occasionally, but is usually within 15 mins of the live data.

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill
          last edited by

          Just to confirm, Hyper-V replication requires a valid server license on both sides, right? (Or DC on both sides.)

          (OF COURSE!)

          Just checking. I was thinking about that this morning for some reason.

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          • brianlittlejohnB
            brianlittlejohn @BRRABill
            last edited by

            @BRRABill yes it does.

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              original_anvil Vendor
              last edited by

              Well, I think this is what you need:
              http://veeampdf.s3.amazonaws.com/guide/veeam_backup_9_0_user_guide_hyperv_en.pdf?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJI4MX44AEVG3NBLA&Expires=1452722530&Signature=3RjM3PAbZpsuxsT%2Br8NPe0TMNLs%3D
              Page 169 and so on 🙂

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch
                last edited by

                None of that answers my question.

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                • dafyreD
                  dafyre @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said:

                  None of that answers my question.

                  Enable Hyper-V Replication on your Remote Hyper-V server, and configure your local Hyper-V Server(s) to replicate everything to your Remote Hyper_V box.... This of course can take a while, but it should work.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    Assuming Veeam supports it's own replication (Appassure Replay does) can't you just add the other repository to Veeams list, and then tell it that it is a replication repository and what to replicate there?

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      What other repository?

                      No where did I say anything was setup except that the server is running Hyper-V 2012 R2 and has a couple minor VM's running on it.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @JaredBusch said:

                        What other repository?

                        No where did I say anything was setup except that the server is running Hyper-V 2012 R2 and has a couple minor VM's running on it.

                        My bad - yeah you could setup a Linux VM, grab some storage, setup Samba, then connect it to the Veeam host.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          Circling back around on this.

                          No one ever came up with a solution. Is this that complicated? Maybe I stated it bad? Or not enough detail?

                          Rephrasing:

                          I have Site A and Site B that are regionally separated. Site A is the live site and Site B is the desired backup site.

                          Site A has 2 Hyper-V servers replicating from Server A to Server B (all workloads on Server A).
                          Site A has Veeam B&R (paid) being used to backup from Server A to local NAS.

                          Site B is a colo
                          Site B can have VPN, if needed. Nothing currently setup.
                          Site B has a non domain joined Hyper-V server sitting there with a few minor web based workloads on it.
                          Site B has about 5TB if space available to Hyper-V.

                          Something else? Am I missing a detail that would help you make a suggestion for me?

                          So what wold be a solid system to setup?

                          This is what I was thinking to do, but did not want to pollute recommendations with my own ideas:
                          At site B, setup a VM with a NFS share and then Veeam in another VM and use the NFS as the storage?

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                          • travisdh1T
                            travisdh1 @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @JaredBusch If you setup a VPN, you should be able to just connect Site A Veeam to an NFS share from Site B. Unless Veeam recommends running a second instance of the software? (I haven't used anything but a trial, so I don't remember.)

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @travisdh1
                              last edited by

                              @travisdh1 said:

                              @JaredBusch If you setup a VPN, you should be able to just connect Site A Veeam to an NFS share from Site B. Unless Veeam recommends running a second instance of the software? (I haven't used anything but a trial, so I don't remember.)

                              Their documentation does say that you should run a second instance. I have not confirmed licensing yet, but I did email this question a couple years ago and was told the off site copy does not need licensing. I will be emailing support about it today.

                              But again, I was hoping for other people to give me ideas for things they have done in this type of scenario. I am confident of my research on this solution, but I am also confident that I do not know all the options available.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                I'm probably missing it, what piece is doing the actual data movement over the WAN, Veeam itself?

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  I'm probably missing it, what piece is doing the actual data movement over the WAN, Veeam itself?

                                  Right now? Nothing. This is a new setup.

                                  The solution I have researched base don the already purchased software? It would be Veeam.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    I wonder why you're creating an NFS mount, why not just give the disk directly to Veeam VM (assuming all of the disk is internal to the VM Host).

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                                      hubtechagain
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                                      it's manual, but it'd work. I'm a big fan of using the M$ 12r2 Replication built in

                                      http://blog.powerbiz.net.au/hyperv/how-to-set-up-hyper-v-replica-for-small-businesses/

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch said:

                                        The solution I have researched base don the already purchased software? It would be Veeam.

                                        Makes sense, just wasn't sure if you'd Veeam or something like RSYNC to get from the backup target to the other backup target.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @hubtechagain
                                          last edited by

                                          @hubtechagain said:

                                          it's manual, but it'd work. I'm a big fan of using the M$ 12r2 Replication built in

                                          http://blog.powerbiz.net.au/hyperv/how-to-set-up-hyper-v-replica-for-small-businesses/

                                          I use it on site as noted already. and it works well.

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                                          • DenisKelleyD
                                            DenisKelley
                                            last edited by

                                            If you are trying to use Veeam, the standard setup would to have a server running a second copy of Veeam B&R at the target site. You'll link the two and configure the replicas. You do not need to purchase a second Veeam license to do this, but you will need a running B&R at the DR site.

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