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    • olivierO
      olivier @DustinB3403
      last edited by olivier

      @DustinB3403 No inside the SR (the XenServer SR)

      edit: the SR where reside your VM disks

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      • stacksofplatesS
        stacksofplates
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        Under the main view for the actual hypervisor in XO, if you look at the storage section and then click on the repository that holds the VHDs. It will list all of the drives. They should be in there.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @olivier
          last edited by

          @olivier OK yeah I do have those.

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          • olivierO
            olivier @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 So everything is fine 🙂

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            • stacksofplatesS
              stacksofplates
              last edited by

              Here's another question, since they are deltas, are they thin provisioned or is it a full copy of the VM. For example, a 300GB file server disk, is the XO_DELTA... drive a full 300GB like it says or only the changed amount?

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by

                Now if only @olivier would stop hiding all of the critical information we'd all be better off!

                😛 😄

                😉

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                • olivierO
                  olivier @stacksofplates
                  last edited by

                  @johnhooks Depends of your XenServer SR type, not related to XO.

                  • LVMoiSCSI: thick provisioned (not for Dundee IIRC)
                  • NFS: thin pro
                  • Local LVM SR: thick pro
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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates @olivier
                    last edited by

                    @olivier said:

                    @johnhooks Depends of your XenServer SR type, not related to XO.

                    • LVMoiSCSI: thick provisioned (not for Dundee IIRC)
                    • NFS: thin pro
                    • Local LVM SR: thick pro

                    Ok so it could potentially be the full size. I just wondered because if you don't have a ton of space you would need to make sure you have enough for the backups to keep those delta drives.

                    Like if you've got 400GB of space and have a 300GB VM that's nearly full, you might not be able to do the delta backup since it needs to keep that extra 300GB drive. Does that sound correct?

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                    • olivierO
                      olivier @stacksofplates
                      last edited by

                      @johnhooks Sadly yes. That's the usual problem with thick pro storage. That's why NFS is always a good idea for shared SR.

                      I have to make some test to check how Dundee behave now with Local LVM and LVMoiSCSI.

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                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates @olivier
                        last edited by

                        @olivier said:

                        @johnhooks Sadly yes. That's the usual problem with thick pro storage. That's why NFS is always a good idea for shared SR.

                        I have to make some test to check how Dundee behave now with Local LVM and LVMoiSCSI.

                        Ok, I just wanted to make sure. Thanks again!!

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                        • olivierO
                          olivier
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                          You are welcome. Now it's more calm here, just take a preview (draft article, not published yet) about what's coming very soon: https://xen-orchestra.com/blog/p/82d8aaf1-84be-4a81-ab3a-10891bf7d1bb/

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                          • stacksofplatesS
                            stacksofplates @olivier
                            last edited by

                            @olivier said:

                            You are welcome. Now it's more calm here, just take a preview (draft article, not published yet) about what's coming very soon: https://xen-orchestra.com/blog/p/82d8aaf1-84be-4a81-ab3a-10891bf7d1bb/

                            That's awesome!!

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @olivier
                              last edited by

                              @olivier said:

                              @johnhooks Sadly yes. That's the usual problem with thick pro storage. That's why NFS is always a good idea for shared SR.

                              Even VMware recommends NFS when it is available.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller But wouldn't that effectively build an IPOD?

                                Even if you have the best possible NFS solution (in reality)?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said:

                                  @scottalanmiller But wouldn't that effectively build an IPOD?

                                  Even if you have the best possible NFS solution (in reality)?

                                  No, NFS is no more or less unable to be "unIPODed" than any other connection technology. You just build highly reliable storage. We did NFS on SAM-SD HA for a major medical group in Texas over like 30 miles. NFS can be clustered just like anything else.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    I'm making a new topic as I want to pick your brain on this in the SMB space.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @DustinB3403 said:

                                      I'm making a new topic as I want to pick your brain on this in the SMB space.

                                      Okay

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