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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
      last edited by

      @DustinB3403 said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @DustinB3403 said:

      So you need developers, but you'll likely only get the developers with capitol to pay them.

      Generally a requirement 😉

      The money or the developers?

      Money to pay developers.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
        last edited by

        So @olivier you never answered my question, when does the "Importing" feature get released?

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        • olivierO
          olivier @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @DustinB3403 said:

          So @olivier you never answered my question, when does the "Importing" feature get released?

          Sorry didn't see the question. What do you mean by importing feature?

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
            last edited by

            The topic I posted the other day about restoring a VM, how there is no indication if the import is completed until the vDisk appears.

            You mentioned that the VM name would remain "Importing... <name>" and then get renamed

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            • olivierO
              olivier @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @DustinB3403 That's fixed and be out for the 4.12, Friday (or at worst Monday).

              If you like to be cutting edge, switch to "next-release" branch on both xo-web and xo-server. It's already in there.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @olivier Awesome.

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                • olivierO
                  olivier
                  last edited by

                  Oh and final thing about this AMA-ish stuff: the goal wasn't to complain about EU investors and giving them all the blame, but just to give a picture of the situation, explaining things. Have a nice day lads 🙂

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @olivier
                    last edited by

                    @olivier said:

                    Oh and final thing about this AMA-ish stuff: the goal wasn't to complain about EU investors and giving them all the blame, but just to give a picture of the situation, explaining things. Have a nice day lads 🙂

                    Don't leave us for the day

                    There is so much more we could ask you!

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                    • olivierO
                      olivier @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @DustinB3403 Go ahead, I'll answer when I can 😉

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        Well this is one question that has kind of nagged me, how do you protect the Xen Orchestra VM?

                        You can't back it up, using it's self.

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                        • olivierO
                          olivier @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 You can backup it if you want ^^ Exporting the backup on a NFS remote share, then if it crashes, re-import a new XOA, connect to the NFS share and reimport it. Tadaaa 😄

                          No problem to export a running VM, so no problem to export "itself".

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                          • olivierO
                            olivier
                            last edited by olivier

                            And very soon, you'll have the "continuous VM replication" allowing you to protect XOA itself too, with a minimal downtime.

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                            • olivierO
                              olivier
                              last edited by

                              BTW, I made very interesting tests with ZFS on Linux + XOA delta backups.

                              Using LZ4 compression is very impressive. Maybe one day integrate the LZ4 compression on the fly into xo-server.

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                @DustinB3403 said:

                                Well this is one question that has kind of nagged me, how do you protect the Xen Orchestra VM?

                                You can't back it up, using it's self.

                                You could run it in a container like me and then just clone the container and export it.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  What I was planning on doing what at the hypervisor level.

                                  Since I'm running on Xen, I was going to use NAUBackup to simply export a full on a weekly schedule....

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                                  • stacksofplatesS
                                    stacksofplates
                                    last edited by

                                    @olivier I have a quick question. So I ran an incremental backup. I got the green terminated sign, but there was still a snapshot of the VM left. Does XO need the snapshot to restore the deltas from?

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                                    • olivierO
                                      olivier @stacksofplates
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                                      @johnhooks The only thing needed is a VDI named "XO_DELTA" something like that (visible in the SR view, in the VDI list).

                                      And it's only needed to create delta. You don't need anything to import a backup, you can doing on a freshly installed XenServer (that's the point of a backup: to be useful in case you lost everything)

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                                      • stacksofplatesS
                                        stacksofplates @olivier
                                        last edited by

                                        @olivier said:

                                        @johnhooks The only thing needed is a VDI named "XO_DELTA" something like that (visible in the SR view, in the VDI list).

                                        And it's only needed to create delta. You don't need anything to import a backup, you can doing on a freshly installed XenServer (that's the point of a backup: to be useful in case you lost everything)

                                        Ok ya that's what I saw. It showed it as a snapshot but called XO_DELTA something or other. It didn't delete after the job ran so I didn't know if I needed to keep it or not. Thanks!

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                                        • olivierO
                                          olivier @stacksofplates
                                          last edited by

                                          @johnhooks It stays until the next backup: then it's removed and replaced just after by a new delta snapshot. That's because a delta is always created by making a difference between 2 references (the current VM disk and a snapshot).

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            So @olivier is my system not working correctly then?

                                            I have no Snapshots of the VM I've been testing the Delta functionality with, nor do I have any additional vdisk.

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